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[NL2-NL10] Question about iso raise

    • mineriva
      mineriva
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.04.2008 Posts: 913
      The hand was played on Cake so no stats.

      ***** Hand History for Game***** (Cake Poker)
      $50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em -
      Table - xxxxxxxxxxxx(Real Money)
      Seat 4 is the button
      Seat 1: CakeSeat1 ( $47.50 USD )
      Seat 2: CakeSeat2 ( $12.30 USD )
      Seat 3: CakeSeat3 ( $18.00 USD )
      Seat 4: CakeSeat4 ( $23.50 USD )
      Seat 5: HERO ( $8.38 USD )
      Seat 7: CakeSeat7 ( $47.00 USD )
      Seat 8: CakeSeat8 ( $30.21 USD )
      Seat 9: CakeSeat9 ( $11.27 USD )
      Seat 10: CakeSeat10 ( $70.30 USD )
      HERO posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
      CakeSeat7 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
      ** Dealing down cards **
      Dealt to WotYouGot [ Jh Ks ]
      CakeSeat8 folds
      CakeSeat9 calls [$0.50 USD]
      5X folds
      HERO raises [$1.75 USD]
      CakeSeat7 folds
      CakeSeat9 calls [$1.50 USD]

      ** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, 5c, 8s ]
      HERO bets [$2.25 USD]
      CakeSeat9 calls [$2.25 USD]

      ** Dealing Turn ** [ Qd ]
      HERO checks
      CakeSeat9 checks

      ** Dealing River ** [ Jd ]
      HERO bets [$4.13 USD]
      CakeSeat9 folds
      HERO wins $4.13 USD
      HERO wins $8.55 USD from main pot

      Ok so I know that without stats the ISO - raise OOP against an unknown may not be the best idea. We need to know his vipi/pfr, limp-call, limp-reraise and fold to CBet to have a good idea whether to do it. I was doing it as part of my experimentations.

      Clearly the bet on the flop, for value, is good.

      I check the turn because I know he folds to any bet but my be floating.

      The river value bet.

      MY QUESTION:

      When we in the big blind and have a hand that is suitable for a oop iso raise eg broadway and we have a suitable villian limping - IS IT REALLY A ISO RAISE? I mean we already heads up and we NOT in position. Can we really still call it a ISO-Raise? Is it not better to consider it "TAKING THE INITATIVE" Any Chess player would understand the difference.
  • 1 reply
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      When it is headsup preflop already (limp and you as BB) then it is logically just a raise for value preflop ? :)

      Against Unknown I just bet/bet/bet and if they fold Turn you note down that he peels the flop on a rainbow board