[NL20-NL50] Nl50 SH QQ BU vs limp raise utg

    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $50.00
      BB:
      $58.50
      MP3:
      $120.85
      CO:
      $50.25
      BU (Hero):
      $52.90


      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q, Q.
      MP3 calls $0.50, CO folds, Hero raises to $2.00, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $7.00, Hero calls $5.00.

      Flop: ($14.75) 2, 8, 4 (2 players)
      MP3 bets $11.00, Hero calls $11.00.

      Turn: ($36.75) 7 (2 players)
      MP3 bets $102.85, Hero calls $34.90(All-In).

      River: ($174.5) 2 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $174.5.
      Results follow:

      villain is 36/29 after 14 hands. Although the limp reraise is pretty strong, I don't like folding QQ six handed. given that, am I better off 4betting all in pre or as played?
  • 6 replies
    • Alan883
      Alan883
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.12.2008 Posts: 1,941
      i am 4betting here for sure. I dont want to play QQ passivly
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      I was just worried about folding out all the hands I beat. Was thinking that if he has AA or KK it's bad luck but if he has AK then maybe i'm better off seeing a flop and going broke with no over cards (i.e. 70% of the time). whereas if I 4bet call then i'm only 56.5% to win versus that hand by the river.

      difficult...
    • Alan883
      Alan883
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.12.2008 Posts: 1,941
      Yeah but i case u have equity 56% you how many BB you earn?

      And how many if he miss the flop with AK?? I think you earn more with PF shove, but i am at university and i didnt make calculation...just thoughts....
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      if you´re not folding QQ as an overpair postlfop I´d prefer 4-betting pf and get all-in
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      Hi Kaitz20

      Would you mind just explaining the reasoning for this please?

      Thanks
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      well you´re either put him on aces/kings and call pf for set value
      Since you miss your set then you should fold to his c-bet.
      Since you can´t fold overpair postflop, which imo is fine given his image then i think 4-betting and getting all-in pf before A or K comes and you may have to fold best hand is imo better than calling pf and then stacking off postflop
      Edit: since you´re always stacking off AA and KK if you ahve overpair then you can also do that pf before scare card comes and you may fold better hand