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[NL2-NL10] odds and outs on NL2

    • Bogdan1190
      Joined: 29.04.2009 Posts: 406
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      0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by

      Preflop: Hero is BB with T:club: , 8:diamond:
      6 folds, SB calls $0,01, Hero raises to $0,08, SB calls $0,06.

      Flop: ($0,16) 5:spade: , 9:club: , 7:diamond: (2 players)
      SB bets $0,12, Hero raises to $0,30 (All-In), SB calls $0,18.

      Turn: ($0,76) J:heart:
      River: ($0,76) 9:spade: (2 players)

      Final Pot: $0,76

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a straight, jack high (Tc 8d)
      SB shows a full-house, fives full of nines (5d 5h)

      SB wins with a full-house, fives full of nines (5d 5h)

      with OESD on flop is it oke to just call ? or is it better to push ? with a OESD i have 8 outs so i would need pot odds + implied odds of 2,2:1 no ? how do i calcalate that for this hand ?
  • 1 reply
    • burek2000
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Hey Bogdan1190,

      nice hand!

      To your question, with OESD you need 2:1 odds from flop to river, however to make a call from flop to turn you need odds of 5:1 to make a profitable call since you have to presume you'll be faced with another bet on the turn if you just call flop. Also, with short stack you barely get any implied odds, so calling for implied odds when applying SSS is usually out of question.

      In this hand, for a profitable call on the flop you would need odds of 5:1, but you only have 0.28:0.12 -> 2.33:1. This means you would have to win additional 0.32$ on the turn when you hit your draw just to be breakeven longterm by calling this flop and those 0.32$ is called implied odds. As you see, if you call the flop you can at most win additional 0.18$ because this is all you would have left in your stack after the call on the flop. And for this reason calling flop is a mistake.

      If there's still something unclear try to reread articles on outs and odds and implied pot odds or just ask here if you won't find the answer there.