[NL2-NL10] QQ bet 3 streets

    • elhh82
      elhh82
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      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
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      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      SB ($8.70)
      BB ($3.76)
      UTG ($12.54)
      Hero ($11.09)
      UTG+2 ($12.08)
      MP1 ($10.38)
      MP2 ($19.27)
      CO ($5.72)
      BTN ($9.62)

      Dealt to Hero Q:spade: Q:club:

      UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, fold, MP2 calls $0.40, fold, fold, SB calls $0.35, fold, UTG calls $0.30

      FLOP ($1.70) 7:club: T:spade: 4:club:

      SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.70, MP2 calls $1.70, SB folds, UTG calls $1.70

      TURN ($6.80) 7:club: T:spade: 4:club: K:diamond:

      UTG checks, Hero bets $3, MP2 calls $3, UTG folds

      RIVER ($12.80) 7:club: T:spade: 4:club: K:diamond: A:diamond:

      Hero bets $2, MP2 calls $2

      Didn't want to give up the turn yet. on the river i just bet $2 as a blobkbet
  • 4 replies
    • x3mwisp
      x3mwisp
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      Joined: 31.03.2009 Posts: 3,604
      His range contains a lot of aces so ch/f river is better.
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
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      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,


      He doesn't have that many Ax hands and even if he does he's not going to bet them on that board, so it still boils down to how often you think he's likely to bluff busted clubs/98/65 if given the chance. Blockbetting when in doubt is certainly fine.

      Considering you have less than 1/2 pot left in your stack and assuming he's not going to throw in very 'thin' bets with one pair hands, he'd need to bluff-shove enough to compensate for the times when he has you beat with AT/QJ that he might bet. I think it's worth a check/call against somebody you've already seen bluff a busted draw, and a default check/fold against people you view as very tight, blockbetting behind right in the middle as a compromise.


      Hope it helps.
    • x3mwisp
      x3mwisp
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      Joined: 31.03.2009 Posts: 3,604
      His range contains a lot of Ax. all the nut flush draws, AT and of course a huge ammount of straight draws and flush draws which dont contain the A. Still i don't think it's profitable to bluff nor the turn neither the river as he will not fold the K and mb not a T and never an A. He will fold all his straight draws probably, but the main reason is that bluffing at nl10 doesnt work good enough as he can even call with 87 or smth.
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
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      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,


      Nut flushdraws won't always play that passively.

      I'm not quite sure you're talking about bluffing, we're obviously valuebetting when we bet that turn again, if he calls with Tx/draws on the turn that's what we want, even if he calls with 87 we beat that so what's the problem.

      The river blockbet isn't a bluff either, we know we're beat sometimes and we're not trying to make him fold anything. The main goal is just to prevent him from going nuts with busted draws if we don't think we can call it off, as well as prevent him from like putting us in an even more awkward stuff by betting $3 with a blurry range when we check to him. As a bonus, he sometimes won't lay down a bad Tx just because it's so cheap, so we get some value out of the deal against bad players.


      Hope it helps.