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Worried 'bout My Roll

    • StaticMoth
      Joined: 22.05.2009 Posts: 2,642
      Nothing new to my story and I'm not a stranger to downswings & sick beats,
      but I'm starting to get worried about my roll.

      I was beatin' NL10 no probs, boosted my roll to $900
      took a shot @ NL25, obv insta shitstorm began, losing all the flips
      and made monsters to 1-3 outers constantly

      Moved back down to NL10 @ $500 ...
      but the shitstorm didn't go away ... it stayed :)

      Now I've lost almost 20 stacks @ NL10 as well with my roll withering
      around $350 and still losing on a constant daily basis.

      I'm going busto on a limit that I used to beat no probs
      Any suggestions, what the hell should I do?

      I've even gone over the PS articles to review my shit and
      make sure I haven't gone on some zombieautopilot spewy tiltmode or anything ...

      And I haven't .... I'm scaaared, mommy :f_frown: :f_frown: :f_mad: :f_mad:
  • 7 replies
    • Atoks
      Joined: 01.06.2008 Posts: 1,397
      Maybe u should do a sweat session with another poker player. Perhaps that way it'd be easier to find a way forward and maybe even identify some leaks.
    • PocketAcesJohn
      Joined: 19.06.2008 Posts: 1,120
      Yeah take 2 concecutive days of then come back fresh with a clear mindset. There no point thinking about where you where or where you want to be...the only thing that matters is the presant and where you are now. Maybe after the 2day break play NL5 until your back up to $500?
    • StaticMoth
      Joined: 22.05.2009 Posts: 2,642
      After the NL25 shitstorm I took a 1 week break ...
      Then played a live 9-man SnG, and despite running like shit I won it

      So got a little momentum back, but as soon as I opened up the
      online tables ... same old same old ...

      Then took a couple more days off & when I returned once again,
      I started getting this feeling of not wanting to play at all as soon as I
      opened up the tables ...

      So I took a couple of more days off and re-read some PS articles,
      watched some videos ... got my confidence & desire to play the game
      back ...

      But nonetheless, no change at the tables :f_frown:
    • Waiboy
      Joined: 18.09.2008 Posts: 4,877
      Hey StaticMoth

      Like always this run is a combination of variance, your play and your opponents play. Taking breaks is the number one thing to do, then study. Sounds like you've done both so that's a great start!

      To break your mindset problems though you simply have to massively increase your study and review time and decrease your playing time. Reducing the number of tables you play (even to one if needs be) is another necessary step. Use mega nitty table selection as well - if a table is even slightly unfavourable, then leave it (if you're an SnG player then I guess you'd look to avoid all but the worst regs as much as possible).

      I've been through something like this ($1500 -> $400 in one month/20k hands) before and it sucks. Not to mention a couple of mini-collapses (currently trying to avoid one at the moment!).

      You cannot stop variance but you can make sure you do everything you can to avoid making it worse!

      Hope this helps. :f_grin:
    • StaticMoth
      Joined: 22.05.2009 Posts: 2,642
      Thx for all the great replies

      I managed to get in a 3h session meanwhile aaand
      usual suckouts and crap ... I was down 7BI and I shut it down

      Then decided to reopen, but this time with just 2 tables ...
      Filled my whole 21" screen with only 2 tables :f_biggrin:

      And things seemed to be turning around a little ...
      I picked 2 extra extra fishy tables and made back 3BI's,
      which was supergreat :f_cool:

      I already decided to put extra time into studying/reviewing instead
      of playing now ... but this "2 supergood tables only" seems to be
      a good idea as well ...

      To put the multitabling aside for better days and reaaally focus in
      on two tables and crack those babies in half

      This should amount to better decisions, hopefully less suckouts
      and a confidence reboost
    • StaticMoth
      Joined: 22.05.2009 Posts: 2,642
      For the past couple of days I've started running better ...

      And by better, I mean I still get sick coolers, but at least I manage to win some
      too ... So I was surfboarding up 'n' down all day long and finishing the days BE

      But now it's back to running worse than complete shit ...

      Today I've managed to lose 8 stacks to sick sick coolers ...

      I mean ... check this shit out ... W H A T T H E F * * C K ?!?!

      Hand converted with online hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2 (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, T.
      Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, SB calls $0.18, BB folds.

      Flop: ($0.45) 4, 3, 5 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.23, SB raises to $0.46, Hero calls $0.23.

      Turn: ($1.37) 6 (2 players)
      SB bets $1.37, Hero calls $1.37.

      River: ($4.11) 2 (2 players)
      SB bets $7.31(All-In), Hero calls $3.35.

      Final Pot: $14.77.

      Results follow:

      Hero shows a straight flush, five high(A T).
      SB shows a straight flush, six high(6 K).

      SB wins with a straight flush, six high(6 K).
    • vedran2006
      Joined: 13.09.2008 Posts: 34
      i think i understand the feeling.
      in past month i played rush poker, and went unbelievably well. i started from 60$ and in 1month time was ate 400$ playing rush 0.10
      i even started to play 0.25 thinking i am so good, and i also did earn even more.
      i know that bankroll management is crucial but when u are going so well you think it will be fine.
      Then first cooler came, and i fell to 300$ in one day (losing 7-10BI)

      Then i thought ok, i should stop playing 0.25 it is out of my league, and continued with 0.10.

      But as you also said, coolers were coming back, losing AA 3-4 in a row all-ins.

      This started to affect my confidence as you also mentioned, and i wasn't playing my A game, but i thought i will get better.
      so in next few days i came to 192$ (lost 4BI, won 2BI, lost 4BI, win 2BI)

      Then i decided to stop playing rush poker.

      I went to normal ring games. playing just 2 tables, not 4. and i am starting to get better. in the same time i started reading again some articles and realized i have leaks in the game, which i didn't see due too overconfidence.

      so in my opinion, you have to as also other guy said, start to learn and improve your game, make notes on players and think more when you play.
      review your hands, don't slow play... if you look back to your hand which you attached, you might realized that only reasonable hand your opponent might have is 6 spades, and that you shouldn't have slowplayed.

      when you have a monster and somebody reraises you (even min raise) just shove it. don't let them get free cards, and suck you out...

      Just to let you know my balance is now 280$ and i am waiting for big rakeback this week, plus 25$ from tke2, and i am back to 350$. this time i learned something from my downswing, improved my game a little, and stopped playing rush poker because you don't have edge in game where you don't know who you are playing against, and everybody just waits for AA, or coldcall for sets normal poker, and play just 1-2 tables. thats what i am doing.

      hope i could help.