[NL2-NL10] Fold pre-flop or call all in ?

    • Bogdan1190
      Joined: 29.04.2009 Posts: 406

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      0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A:club: , J:club:
      UTG2 calls $0,02, MP1 calls $0,02, Hero raises to $0,12, MP3 folds, CO raises to $0,40 (All-In), 3 folds, UTG2 raises to $0,68 (All-In), MP1 calls $0,66, Hero calls $0,25 (All-In).

      Flop: ($2,16) 5:spade: , 5:club: , T:club:
      Turn: ($2,16) 5:heart:
      River: ($2,16) 9:spade: (4 players)

      Final Pot: $2,16

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows three of a kind, fives (Ac Jc)
      CO shows three of a kind, fives (Ks Ad)
      MP1 shows four of a kind, fives (As 5d)
      UTG2 shows a full-house, fives full of jacks (Jd Js)

      MP1 wins with four of a kind, fives (As 5d)

      i think that you would say fold pre-flop to this hand but with this many players in the pot and all kinda comited i thought that if i win this multiway pot i will win a stack from al the players so i have 4:1 pot odds to win the maximum. and i know that i'm almoust always behind here before flop... but still will you fold preflop or call?
  • 1 reply
    • burek2000
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Hey Bogdan1190,

      according to current articles this is a fold preflop, however there used to be a bit more advanced old basic articles, which told you to go all-in according to ratio between your raise and your remaining stack size.

      Article said your ratio was...

      4:1 or worse, you go all-in with AK/JJ+;

      between 2.5:1 and 4:1, you go all-in with AQ+/TT+;

      2.5:1 or better, you go all-in with all the hands you raised with(AJ+/77+/KQ);

      Your ratio in this hand is 0.12:0.25 -> 1:2.08 which is better than 1:2.5, so you can go all-in with AJs.

      Another thing, playing AJs here isn't a mistake, but sticking to the basic chart and folding it preflop in MP2 would also be completely fine.