# impossible logic game :(

• Global
Joined: 08.08.2008
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/522773

soooo addictive, ill ship 5\$ to the guy who explain a logic how to beat it !

ps. mods if this is not allowed please just delete my offer
• 9 replies
• Bronze
Joined: 20.03.2009
I don't think you can beat this one - at least not if you are first to act. The computer has position over you which is the absolute nuts here
• Global
Joined: 08.08.2008
you can play it here, where u decide whether to be first or second

http://www.cs4fn.org/binary/nim/hamsternim.php
• Bronze
Joined: 07.03.2008
Its binary logic. Thats why the computer is so good at it.

http://www.cs4fn.org/binary/nim/nimsecret.php
• Bronze
Joined: 13.08.2009
It's rigged you cant beat it
• Bronze
Joined: 01.12.2008
HOW TO WIN:

Create a "symmetrical" board on each of your turns

Suppose:

XXX

XXXXX

XXXXXXXXX

XXXXX

XXX

If it is your turn then you clear the 3rd row creating a symmetrical board. Then you just copy your opponent's moves down to the very end and you win. At first I thought it was rigged too.

noclaninator on full tilt ty
• Bronze
Joined: 01.12.2008
Im still learning this game.

Suppose you don't have a move that makes a symmetrical board such as

XX
XXX
XXXX
XXXXX
XXXXX

Make a move that does not give your opponent an opportunity to create the symmetrical board. For example if you remove one stone from the second row then your opponent clears row 3 making a symmetrical board and then he just autowins.

What I still haven't figured out is how to get a win out of a board such as

XXXXX
XXXX
XXX
XX
X

Where each row has a different number of stones. Still, I'm not doing bad figuring this game out after just 10 minutes. I won 2 and lost like 10 lol.
• Bronze
Joined: 02.12.2006
Woot I beat it after 10 attempts or so
• Silver
Joined: 12.01.2010
hats off to noclinator, well done sir..
Have you tried the reverse one?
• Bronze
Joined: 01.12.2008
This will be the last of my post frenzy as I am now beginning to get bored of this game and my head is starting to hurt.

If your opponent leaves u with a symmetrical board you cannot win. Also this computer likes to leave you with

XXX
XX
X

Where you cannot win since no matter what you do your opponent creates a symmetrical board after you take your turn.

In any form of nim there are some situations where you can't win even from the start of the game. There also are situations where your opponent can't win if you know what you are doing. One screw up costs you the game. Haven't tried reverse one yet.

/end post frenzy