Is it a downswing, or do i really suck?

    • Asaf92
      Asaf92
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      Joined: 17.11.2009 Posts: 104
      PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 1.2 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Qc, As
      3 folds, CO bets t300, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1775 (All-In), 1 fold, CO calls t1425 (All-In)

      Flop: (t3550) 10c, 5s, Ad (2 players, 2 all-in)

      Turn: (t3550) Ah (2 players, 2 all-in)

      River: (t3550) 9c (2 players, 2 all-in)

      Total pot: t3550

      Results:
      Hero had Qc, As (three of a kind, Aces).
      CO had 10h, Ac (full house, Aces over tens).
      Outcome: CO won t3550

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      Preflop: Hero is Button with Kc, As
      1 fold, MP bets t1295 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero raises to t2155 (All-In), 2 folds

      Flop: (t2815) 6h, 4s, Js (2 players, 2 all-in)

      Turn: (t2815) 3h (2 players, 2 all-in)

      River: (t2815) 10h (2 players, 2 all-in)

      Total pot: t2815

      Results:
      Hero had Kc, As (high card, Ace).
      MP had Qs, 10s (one pair, tens).
      Outcome: MP won t2815

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      Preflop: Hero is BB with Ac, Qc
      UTG calls t30, MP1 calls t30, 4 folds, Hero bets t180, 1 fold, MP1 calls t150

      Flop: (t405) Ad, 6h, 7c (2 players)
      Hero bets t250, MP1 raises to t690, Hero raises to t1250 (All-In), MP1 calls t560

      Turn: (t2905) Ah (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: (t2905) 3d (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: t2905

      Results:
      Hero had Ac, Qc (three of a kind, Aces).
      MP1 had 4c, 5c (straight, seven high).
      Outcome: MP1 won t2905

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      Preflop: Hero is SB with 4d, 4h
      2 folds, Hero bets t795 (All-In), BB calls t695

      Flop: (t1590) 3s, Jh, Ah (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Turn: (t1590) 6s (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: (t1590) Ad (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: t1590

      Results:
      Hero had 4d, 4h (two pair, Aces and fours).
      BB had Ac, 2c (three of a kind, Aces).
      Outcome: BB won t1590

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      Preflop: Hero is SB with Ah, 10c
      Button calls t400, Hero bets t4420 (All-In), 1 fold, Button calls t4020

      Flop: (t9315) 2c, 3h, 6c (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Turn: (t9315) 4s (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: (t9315) 5c (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: t9315

      Results:
      Button had 4d, Ad (straight, six high).
      Hero had Ah, 10c (straight, six high).
      Outcome: Button won t4657, Hero won t4658
      (This one was just annoying on the turn, and on the river i was like "WTF i should have just won this pot without the bullshit")

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      I had my "downswings" but my entire day was just like this.
      Now seriously, is it normal to lose like 10 buy ins in one day considering this crap?
  • 20 replies
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
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      Joined: 25.10.2008 Posts: 5,255
      You don't want the answer to that question
    • Schris7
      Schris7
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      Joined: 15.01.2007 Posts: 730
      10 bis are nothing . as long as u make the right moved dont worry much about the results in long term u ll be a winner . sngs are a heavy variance format ,u can even have 30-40bi swings.
    • DOZN01
      DOZN01
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      Joined: 30.08.2008 Posts: 24
      you just had a bad day, 10 buyins is not much when you have the right bankroll management, ive had these days too, but i come back stronger next time, and so will you :)
    • pinnryder
      pinnryder
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      Joined: 10.11.2009 Posts: 597
      I had a streak of not cashing in 16 tournaments in a row just the other day and then only making a 3rd place.. It's hard to get used to it but if you want to be succesfull at the SnGs you don't have a choice...
    • ihufa
      ihufa
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      Joined: 18.03.2008 Posts: 3,323
      option 2
    • RavForenzo
      RavForenzo
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      Joined: 27.05.2008 Posts: 293
      Some/Most of those hands are shocking, you made some awful decisions there. Nothing to do with downswings i'm afraid.
    • SlowOne
      SlowOne
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      Joined: 22.11.2007 Posts: 39
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    • SlowOne
      SlowOne
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      Joined: 22.11.2007 Posts: 39
      @Asaf92
      You seem be overvalueing AKo and AQo in 1.20$ games. Thow you seem to be ahead(or even dominating) opponent preflop in most of allin situations, that's not always the best situation to be in. General rule of SNGs is that it's better to be behind preflop in shoved hands, so you can suckout and feel good. This is fundamental truth and if you don't accept it and start play accordingly to it, you will lose on the short run and short run is what poker is all about.

      Hope I offered nice insight nto your game and good luck ;) !
    • fusionpk
      fusionpk
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      Joined: 21.01.2010 Posts: 1,683
      Alot of your hands are unlucky, but you are as stated above, overevaluating some hands. I mean are you really wanting to get 44 and AQ all in preflop? When your short its understandable, but not when you're well stacked. Read some articles and you'll soon see how much you are overrating hands like AQ.
    • elhh82
      elhh82
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      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      Originally posted by SlowOne
      @Asaf92
      You seem be overvalueing AKo and AQo in 1.20$ games. Thow you seem to be ahead(or even dominating) opponent preflop in most of allin situations, that's not always the best situation to be in. General rule of SNGs is that it's better to be behind preflop in shoved hands, so you can suckout and feel good. This is fundamental truth and if you don't accept it and start play accordingly to it, you will lose on the short run and short run is what poker is all about.

      Hope I offered nice insight nto your game and good luck ;) !
      QFT! best post ever... i think
    • eteris
      eteris
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      Joined: 26.08.2007 Posts: 383
      well it's obvious that you have to fold AQ, AK and play A4,A2,45,QT. simple.
    • taavi1337
      taavi1337
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      you do
    • drdrab
      drdrab
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      yeah, definitely over-valuing some hands there, I would have to be real short to be pushing with those hands. You did get unlucky but then if you had played correctly you wouldn't have lost so much.

      I would suggest that if you had lost 10 BI's you were probably tilting a bit and made some questionable decisions (which is just natural) so that may explain also why those beats just made you tear your hair out but give it a few days, look back over the hands and you will see that although you were favourite you were never ahead by much and poker can be a cruel mistress like that sometimes.
    • PocketAcesJohn
      PocketAcesJohn
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      Joined: 19.06.2008 Posts: 1,116
      You suck :D
    • mata123
      mata123
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      [x]you suck
      ....no really...you do :f_biggrin:
    • 1MOAR
      1MOAR
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      standard coolers
    • h0m1e
      h0m1e
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      FFS stop saying that he sucks, just tell him in detail where he did wrong so he can learn something instead of being demoralized to hell by some of you.I know criticize is good but be specific about it.
    • wuttehhell
      wuttehhell
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      Joined: 27.03.2010 Posts: 474
      I totally agree.
      You suck dude, cause everybodey knows you should fold AQ, AK when someone already raised.

      You should play 56 and 78s cause they have big cards so the flop will come with low cards. It's easy math. :spade:
    • webjockeycontact
      webjockeycontact
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      Joined: 03.02.2010 Posts: 34
      Originally posted by wuttehhell
      I totally agree.
      You suck dude, cause everybodey knows you should fold AQ, AK when someone already raised.

      You should play 56 and 78s cause they have big cards so the flop will come with low cards. It's easy math. :spade:
      It'd be better if you didnt post at all in threads like these, your brain is clearly broken.
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