AK sucks

    • Grailer
      Grailer
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      Joined: 19.11.2009 Posts: 321
      Sample size 9,000 hands

      AA 46 times win 86.96% won $8.66 <-- sick
      AKs 26 times win 69.23% won -$7.35
      AKo 77 times win 67.53% won -11.98
      AQs 31 times win 51.61% won -2.67
      AQo 71 times win 50.70% won $1.06

      KK 39 times win 84.62% won $22.52

      better than AA
      A8s 21 times win 86.96% won $9.84

      fold AK play 52 win more money
      52s 24 times win 12.50% won $4.72

      54s 23 times win 47.83% won $7.37

      I guess if I moved all in before flop with AK every time i got it I might win more money in the long run eh since it wins 69% ?

      Lets try it ... i get AK 2 times today and ship it.

      AKs vs AA lost
      AKo vs KK lost

      add another -$10 lost.

      :s_cry:
  • 39 replies
    • Targetme
      Targetme
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      Joined: 04.05.2009 Posts: 1,888
      Probly over playin aces gettin set mined and lossing your whole stack
    • Grailer
      Grailer
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      Joined: 19.11.2009 Posts: 321
      AA vs 9 10 lose to straight , thought he had AK KQ on turn as played

      Play hand

      AA vs J10 all in pre flop ... I played this badly and got trapped

      Play hand

      AA vs KK , oh noes what shall I do when he moves all in b4 flop ?

      Play hand

      I try not to overplay AA this hand .. l under play AA this hand suck out on river doh!

      Play hand


      I fold AA alot too , do you want to see the laydowns I made ?

      fold AA to flush draw ...

      Play hand

      fold AA to two pair , why am im limping with AA , because these fish called me anyway if I raised , i could just move all in and win blinds I guess ? ie over play Aces .

      Play hand

      ... well thats it folks .
    • tcs35
      tcs35
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      Joined: 31.01.2009 Posts: 3,583
      Didn't I make a post on this and you flamed me?
    • Grailer
      Grailer
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      Joined: 19.11.2009 Posts: 321
      Originally posted by TobyCS
      Didn't I make a post on this and you flamed me?
      ironic isnt it .
    • Grailer
      Grailer
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      Joined: 19.11.2009 Posts: 321
      I found a way to win with AK !! I knew i was playing this hand wrong all along.

      Rather have A2s anyday at least u could flop a wheel / flush / 2 pair or trip 2s with that .. AK usually vs AK = rake

      Also , if you have AK , the chance of them having KK is lower , which is why A2 - A5 is way better .

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $5.34
      CO:
      $4.74
      BU:
      $6.70
      SB:
      $4.69
      BB (Hero):
      $7.14


      Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A.
      MP3 raises to $0.16, 4 folds, MP3 gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $0.06.



      A2s , check it out and feel the power baby ...


      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $2.76
      SB:
      $6.04
      BB:
      $5.59
      CO (Hero):
      $5.00


      Preflop: Hero is CO with A, 2.
      Hero raises to $0.12, BU raises to $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.28.

      Flop: ($0.86) A, 3, Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.61, BU calls $0.61.

      Turn: ($2.08) 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.48, BU calls $1.48.

      River: ($5.04) T (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU checks.

      Final Pot: $5.04.
      Results follow:

      BU shows a pair of kings(K K).
      Hero shows a pair of aces(A 2).

      Hero wins with a pair of aces(A 2).
    • supeyrio
      supeyrio
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      Joined: 11.11.2009 Posts: 3,106
      pure genius. you must be the same guy who caught my bluff with a 2 pair A kicker
    • michaelqian
      michaelqian
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      Joined: 02.05.2009 Posts: 512
      thanks for the laugh
    • Grailer
      Grailer
      Global
      Joined: 19.11.2009 Posts: 321
      Yeah sure thing you can laugh but dont cry when this happens to you

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2 (Hero):
      $13.76
      MP3:
      $5.00
      CO:
      $5.52
      BU:
      $8.32
      SB:
      $4.44
      BB:
      $1.69


      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, 3.
      Hero raises to $0.08, MP3 raises to $0.24, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.16.

      Flop: ($0.54) 2, 3, 3 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 bets $0.48, Hero raises to $1.47, MP3 raises to $4.76, Hero calls $3.29.

      Turn: ($10.06) Q (2 players)


      River: ($10.06) T (2 players)


      Final Pot: $10.06.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows three of a kind, threes(A 3).
      MP3 shows two pairs, kings and threes(K K).

      Hero wins with three of a kind, threes(A 3).
    • supeyrio
      supeyrio
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      Joined: 11.11.2009 Posts: 3,106
      can we play heads up?
    • michaelqian
      michaelqian
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      Joined: 02.05.2009 Posts: 512
      Sorry dude me first..... then he's all yours.
    • Berzerger
      Berzerger
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      Joined: 24.03.2008 Posts: 910
      Sad to disappoint you guys, but Grailer does not accept HU challenges. He acts high and mighty, but when someone actually calls him out he gets scared and makes up some bs excuse that makes less sense than the hands he posts. I don't think he's a troll craving for attention, he genuinely believes that his "strategy" works, but he still has enough common sense to turn down HU challenges from forum members when it comes down to it, so I doubt anyone will be playing him one on one in the near future.
    • blankcheque
      blankcheque
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      Joined: 06.01.2010 Posts: 31
      Dont make me laugh. you would honestly prefer A2 to Ak? Run it on equilator and you will see how much better AK is. Hope i find you on one of my tables soon to improve my +EV.AK wins nearly 74% of the time
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
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      Joined: 25.10.2008 Posts: 5,255
      These HU challenges are funny, grow up people
    • Grailer
      Grailer
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      Joined: 19.11.2009 Posts: 321
      Originally posted by blankcheque
      Dont make me laugh. you would honestly prefer A2 to Ak? Run it on equilator and you will see how much better AK is. Hope i find you on one of my tables soon to improve my +EV.AK wins nearly 74% of the time
      So you prefer AK vs KK/AA than A2s vs AA/KK ?

      wow ok good luck there buddy :)
    • Rakoth666
      Rakoth666
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      Joined: 01.01.2009 Posts: 45
      If you are that sure the villain has AA/KK then you must fold any hand that is not , well... AA.
    • ihufa
      ihufa
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      Joined: 18.03.2008 Posts: 3,323
      Originally posted by Grailer
      Originally posted by blankcheque
      Dont make me laugh. you would honestly prefer A2 to Ak? Run it on equilator and you will see how much better AK is. Hope i find you on one of my tables soon to improve my +EV.AK wins nearly 74% of the time
      So you prefer AK vs KK/AA than A2s vs AA/KK ?

      wow ok good luck there buddy :)
      you're dumb
    • supeyrio
      supeyrio
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      Joined: 11.11.2009 Posts: 3,106
      Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
      These HU challenges are funny, grow up people
      i cant fast fwd time...
    • opal99
      opal99
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      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,270
      Originally posted by Grailer
      Sample size 9,000 hands
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    • alejandrosh
      alejandrosh
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      Joined: 02.07.2008 Posts: 4,346
      Originally posted by opal99
      Originally posted by Grailer
      Sample size 9,000 hands
      [x] samplesize
      [x] meaningless samplesize
      fyp
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