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Jamming

    • Joronamo
      Joronamo
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 649
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $25.00
      SB (Hero):
      $32.35
      BB:
      $8.70
      MP2:
      $71.25
      MP3:
      $23.50
      CO:
      $27.25


      Preflop: Hero is SB with 5, 5.
      3 folds, BU raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, BB folds.

      Flop: ($1.75) 6, 7, 4 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00.

      Turn: ($3.75) 6 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU checks.

      River: ($3.75) 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $30.60(All-In), BU calls $23.25(All-In).

      Final Pot: $57.6.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows a full-house, fives full of sixs(5 5).
      BU shows a straight, eight high(8 K).

      Hero wins with a full-house, fives full of sixs(5 5).
  • 26 replies
    • ZhiCheng
      ZhiCheng
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.10.2008 Posts: 2,294
      Jamming FTW

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.15/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $25.00
      MP3:
      $39.05
      CO:
      $12.70
      BU:
      $4.65
      SB:
      $24.35
      BB:
      $25.00
      UTG2:
      $19.30
      MP1(Hero):
      $64.05


      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7, 7.
      UTG2 folds, Hero raises to $0.90, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.90, 3 folds, BB calls $0.65.

      Flop: ($2.85) K, 7, 4 (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $2.00, MP3 calls $2.00, BB folds.

      Turn: ($6.85) 4 (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.20, MP3 calls $4.20.

      River: ($15.25) 4 (2 players)
      Hero bets $40.00, MP3 calls $31.95(All-In).

      Final Pot: $87.2.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows a full-house, sevens full of fours(7 7).
      MP3 shows a full-house, fours full of kings(K T).

      Hero wins with a full-house, sevens full of fours(7 7).
    • Joronamo
      Joronamo
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 649
      Haha nice Goo, jamming FTW~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!
    • peche025
      peche025
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.12.2008 Posts: 1,387
      I've not read Harrington's books, but I saw yesterday somewhere in the hand evaluation forums, someone says he recommending shoving the nuts on the river over value betting reasoning it's long run +ev any thoughts?
    • ihufa
      ihufa
      Silver
      Joined: 18.03.2008 Posts: 3,323
      $3/$6 No Limit Holdem
      5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG awawah ($315.05)
      CO amer938 ($335.20)
      BTN Hero ($1,462)
      SB the_road ($603)
      BB table-image ($691.50)

      Pre-Flop: ($9, 5 players) Hero is BTN 6:club: 4:club:
      1 fold, amer938 calls $6, Hero raises to $24, 2 folds, amer938 calls $18

      Flop: 9:club: Q:heart: 9:heart: ($57, 2 players)
      amer938 checks, Hero bets $36, amer938 calls $36

      Turn: J:diamond: ($129, 2 players)
      amer938 checks, Hero bets $92, amer938 calls $92

      River: 4:spade: ($313, 2 players)
      amer938 goes all-in $183.20, Hero calls $183.20

      Final Pot: $679.40
      amer938 shows PAIR NINE
      A:club: K:spade:
      Hero shows TWO_PAIR NINE FOUR
      6:club: 4:club:

      Hero wins $676.40 (net +$341.20)

      amer938 lost $335.20


      jamming ftl!
    • ZhiCheng
      ZhiCheng
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.10.2008 Posts: 2,294
      LOL ihufa u sick bastard!!!

      That guy's gonna be on tilt for the rest of his life

      :heart: :heart:
      How the hell u do such plays?
    • ihufa
      ihufa
      Silver
      Joined: 18.03.2008 Posts: 3,323
      mainly by tilting i guess :f_biggrin:
    • irregularity
      irregularity
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.05.2008 Posts: 233
      ihufa :s_love:
    • ZeMammuth
      ZeMammuth
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.11.2008 Posts: 704
      People seem to have the concept of value betting incorrectly. Think about it this way, let's say you have a draw, like a flush draw or str8 draw on the flop, if you are only up against one opponent, the raise you make isn't a value bet because you are only putting in money against one opponent, you are not improving your odds in the hand. However, in the same sittuation, if there are 2 other opponents in, that is when you value bet, which increases your odds, thus giving you better value for being in the pot.
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.10.2008 Posts: 5,255
      Originally posted by NickSeraphim
      People seem to have the concept of value betting incorrectly. Think about it this way, let's say you have a draw, like a flush draw or str8 draw on the flop, if you are only up against one opponent, the raise you make isn't a value bet because you are only putting in money against one opponent, you are not improving your odds in the hand. However, in the same sittuation, if there are 2 other opponents in, that is when you value bet, which increases your odds, thus giving you better value for being in the pot.
    • ZeMammuth
      ZeMammuth
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.11.2008 Posts: 704
      I confuse myself sometimes, however, the words of the mad man are true. In simpler words, if you hve a flush draw, and you bet one dollar, against one opponent you are only getting your money back if he calls, but if there is multiple opponents that makes the pot 3 dollars for every 1 of yours. That's what a value bet is.
    • ZeMammuth
      ZeMammuth
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.11.2008 Posts: 704
      Because the odds are against you 33 percent of getting the flush from there so it's bad value! if it was 50 /50 it's fine.
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.10.2008 Posts: 5,255
      Originally posted by NickSeraphim
      I confuse myself sometimes, however, the words of the mad man are true. In simpler words, if you hve a flush draw, and you bet one dollar, against one opponent you are only getting your money back if he calls, but if there is multiple opponents that makes the pot 3 dollars for every 1 of yours. That's what a value bet is.
      Originally posted by NickSeraphim
      Because the odds are against you 33 percent of getting the flush from there so it's bad value! if it was 50 /50 it's fine.
    • ZeMammuth
      ZeMammuth
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.11.2008 Posts: 704
      Damn that is funny. PS I AM RETARD
    • Joronamo
      Joronamo
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 649
      Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
      Originally posted by NickSeraphim
      People seem to have the concept of value betting incorrectly. Think about it this way, let's say you have a draw, like a flush draw or str8 draw on the flop, if you are only up against one opponent, the raise you make isn't a value bet because you are only putting in money against one opponent, you are not improving your odds in the hand. However, in the same sittuation, if there are 2 other opponents in, that is when you value bet, which increases your odds, thus giving you better value for being in the pot.
      +1
    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
      Black
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,145
      lol, draw-valuebetting your way to millions
    • noclaninator
      noclaninator
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.12.2008 Posts: 312
      speaking of jamming i have fond memories of a hand I played on full tilt as a dirty shortstacker.

      I have A7 in the bb and i check. There are two limpers.

      Flop: AAA. Well i guess I win. Check

      Turn: T I still win so I check. Still no one wants the pot. They must have utter trash.

      River: T

      Time to put them to the test to see how stupid they really are. I shove all in for $19 into a $3 pot. To my amazement both call playing the board. One has Q9o and one has 85s. They were calling 19 to win 19 after rake. THANKS FOR YOUR MONEY!
    • shane0878
      shane0878
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.06.2009 Posts: 164
      Originally posted by noclaninator
      speaking of jamming i have fond memories of a hand I played on full tilt as a dirty shortstacker.

      I have A7 in the bb and i check. There are two limpers.

      Flop: AAA. Well i guess I win. Check

      Turn: T I still win so I check. Still no one wants the pot. They must have utter trash.

      River: T

      Time to put them to the test to see how stupid they really are. I shove all in for $19 into a $3 pot. To my amazement both call playing the board. One has Q9o and one has 85s. They were calling 19 to win 19 after rake. THANKS FOR YOUR MONEY!
      LOL
      As a self confessed complete fish i would have called too. :f_frown:
      Thats why i read these threads, to learn.
      Thanks.
      Well thats learning over for today off to chill :f_cool:
    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
      Black
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,145
      Originally posted by noclaninator
      speaking of jamming i have fond memories of a hand I played on full tilt as a dirty shortstacker.

      I have A7 in the bb and i check. There are two limpers.

      Flop: AAA. Well i guess I win. Check

      Turn: T I still win so I check. Still no one wants the pot. They must have utter trash.

      River: T

      Time to put them to the test to see how stupid they really are. I shove all in for $19 into a $3 pot. To my amazement both call playing the board. One has Q9o and one has 85s. They were calling 19 to win 19 after rake. THANKS FOR YOUR MONEY!
      nobody ever has 4 of a kind, you must have been cheating!
    • Magijec
      Magijec
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.10.2007 Posts: 91
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $8.56
      CO:
      $1.25
      BU:
      $5.76
      SB:
      $2.93
      BB (Hero):
      $5.95
      UTG1:
      $4.88
      UTG2:
      $5.57
      MP1:
      $5.02
      MP2:
      $5.02


      Preflop: Hero is BB with K, Q.
      UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, 5 folds, Hero checks.

      Flop: ($0.17) Q, T, 7 (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.15, UTG2 calls $0.15, MP1 folds.

      Turn: ($0.47) K (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.35, UTG2 calls $0.35.

      River: ($1.17) Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $5.40, UTG2 calls $5.02.

      Final Pot: $11.59.
      Results follow:

      UTG2 shows a royal flush(J A).
      Hero shows a full-house, queens full of kings(K Q).

      UTG2 wins with a royal flush(J A).

      jamming ftw
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