[NL20-NL50] NL25 6-max, 22; F - cbet?/plan?

    • Anger86
      Anger86
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.08.2008 Posts: 511
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      CO:
      $25.00
      BU:
      $45.16
      SB (Hero):
      $47.42
      BB:
      $30.22
      MP2:
      $35.53
      MP3:
      $34.26


      Preflop: Hero is SB with 2, 2.
      3 folds, BU raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $3.00, BB folds, BU calls $2.15.

      Flop: ($6.25) 5, 5, Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.00, BU calls $3.00.

      Turn: ($12.25) 8 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $5.04, Hero ?.


      Villain's stats:
      Hands: 141
      VPIP: 35
      PFR: 21
      Fold to 3bet: 75
      Fold-CBET: 33
      Agr: 5.0
      WTSD: 19%
      W$SD: 80%


      I think, 3bet is my best option PF:
      1) I have no implied odds;
      2) Villain's fold to 3bet%=75%

      Question is: What to do post-flop?
      Do you see F cbet here? (fold to cbet = only 33)
      What is your plan for post-flop play?

      I think, it should be - give up at least after F cbet.
  • 5 replies
    • ZhiCheng
      ZhiCheng
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.10.2008 Posts: 2,294
      Im betting 5$ on the flop and c/f turn should he call the flop.
      Betting 1/2pot on the flop invites him to try to float u with everything and reevaluate after ur action on turn
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      Preflop: What do you mean by no implied odds? Just calling is there perfectly fine! Against such a loose opponent it's pretty hard to make him fold and he ain't folding 75% of the hand.

      As played
      Flop: CBetting bigger, like $4.
      Turn: Check/Fold, we likely are behind and if we even aren't then it's not that profitable call overall.

      Best regards,
      Rensu
    • Anger86
      Anger86
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.08.2008 Posts: 511
      So, against this opponent the most profitable play PF is call?

      Then I would call like 8 times, fold 7 of them on average after Villain's c-bet,
      when not improved.
      Hit on 8th time (on average) and ... am I getting paid often enough against this Villain, when OOP?

      Is "fold" acceptable here ever? Is folding - giving away value?

      If I have an aggressive BB, then what?
    • justkyle88
      justkyle88
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 7,596
      i agree with the call preflop. This guy isnt going to fold to flop c-bets very often especially if he is raise/calling pf. So, i would be betting ~1/2pot.
      Imo its best to bet this amount on paired boards with no flush, keeps c-bets cheaper and also bet the same amount when u hit the nuts.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I would likely call 75% and 3-bet 25%
      Since you´re deep you can both call and 3-bet. it depends how often you think you can take pot down postflop oop, since deep I think he´d call quite often
      I´d likely barrel that turn card, since I think he is floating this board quite often and would give up on the turn