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[NL2-NL10] NL100 2 hands.

    • aciddrop
      Joined: 08.10.2006 Posts: 1,519
      Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50/$1.00BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

      UTG+1 ($115.45)
      UTG+2 ($29.85)
      MP1 ($85.50)
      MP2 ($213.55)
      MP3 ($101.50)
      CO ($132.40)
      Button ($81.30)
      SB ($94.50)
      BB ($126.00) (Hero)
      UTG ($20.00)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J:heart: , T:spade:
      3 folds, MP2 calls $1.00, 1 folds, CO calls $1.00, 1 folds, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks,

      Flop: 8:club: , J:spade: , T:club: ( $4 )
      SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $3.00, 1 folds, SB calls $3.00, Hero raises to $12.00, MP2 raises to $98.00, 1 folds, Hero ?

      Free play from BB, flopping 2 pair. The board is very dangerous. I decide to c/r. I have no special read on MP2, and couldn't access PT stats during the hand. How would you read this, and what is the +ev play here against unknown?

      Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50/$1.00BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

      UTG+2 ($108.90)
      MP1 ($100.00)
      MP2 ($99.00)
      MP3 ($40.83)
      CO ($18.00)
      Button ($17.50)
      SB ($136.70) (Hero)
      BB ($19.65)
      UTG ($18.50)
      UTG+1 ($20.00)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 3:spade: , 3:diamond:
      2 folds, UTG+2 calls $1.00, 1 folds, MP2 raises to $5.00, MP3 calls $5.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $4.50, BB calls $4.00, 1 folds

      Flop: 3:heart: , 2:club: , 6:heart: ( $21 )
      Hero checks, BB raises All-In $14.65, MP2 calls $14.65, MP3 calls $14.65, Hero raises All-In $131.7, 1 folds, MP3 raises All-In $21.18,

      OOP I decide to C/R MP2 on a dangerous board, then BB puts his remaining chips in, MP2 calls and MP3 follows suit. I wanted action, I got it! My push dropped the preflop aggressor, and got the remaining chips of MP3. Should I have just raised, to try and get MP2 in as well, or do I want him gone if possible?

      Turn: J:diamond: ( $217.83 )

      River: 5:diamond: ( $217.83 )

      Final Pot: $214.83
  • 4 replies
    • Puschkin81
      Joined: 14.04.2006 Posts: 4,786
      Hi aciddrop!

      Hand 1) this a difficult situation. I would definitely bet the flop here. check/raising in an unraised pot on a very drawheavy board is very dangerous. After his all-in you should fold because he can alread have a straight or set. Even if you still have the best hand he might be on a straightdraw or flushdraw or both and beat you on the later streets. So it's a fold imo.

      Hand 2) Well played. Nice hand!

      Good luck at the tables!
    • undercover82
      Joined: 09.12.2006 Posts: 813
      1. i think i would fold here. He is willing to commit his whole stack on an unraised pot. I think most of the time he will hold a set of 8s or a straight and you only have 4 outs to improve while he has more if he is behind and pushing a draw.
      I had a similar hand the other day i held JT , flop 789 , unraised pot , i bet , got raised , eventually i pushed on the flop and got called by 98.

      2.This is a very drawy board , do not give them the chance to outdraw you cheaply. Pot is 65$ already and any other raise commits you anyway , so you dont wanna see a heart or a possible gutshot completing for your opponent on the turn while you still have money behind.
    • aciddrop
      Joined: 08.10.2006 Posts: 1,519
      1) I need to slow down and consider more, maybe play fewer tables when playing BSS. I just saw my 2 pair, put him on a draw, and went all in, and he did have a set of eights. Why I should think he would overbet a draw like that, I have no idea. I didn't think enough, unfortunately, just played instantly. Next time.

      2) So, waiting for MP2 to bet is ok, but then all in over the top is correct?
    • Sleyde
      Joined: 15.01.2005 Posts: 17,714
      2) I agree with above.

      1) Tough situation. I'd definitely bet the flop and then push to a raise. I dont think going broke here is a major mistake.

      You could find a fold here after he pushes the flop but that depends on villain. If he is somehow reasonable, there is no real hand that you are behind against.

      JJ, TT are raised preflop, maybe even eights. with him limping mp2, I'd put him on suited connectors which now have a combodraw. 79 is possible though. Q9 rather unlikely.