Hand Evaluation Coaching Silver 27.04 - Post here

    • Nussknacker
      Nussknacker
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      Joined: 05.04.2006 Posts: 16,276
      Please post hands for the next coaching on 27.04.2010
      Add your own thoughts, questions and any further information you have towards your opponent.

      Your hands will be discussed during the coaching

      Kind regards

      Nussknacker

      and

      hasenbraten
  • 6 replies
    • oksanka77
      oksanka77
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      Joined: 23.01.2009 Posts: 1,247
      1)[B] What would be better ch/c, or ch/f river?
      3bet vs EP 2%;
      turn raise CB 10%;
      river raise CB 19%(27);[/B]


      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
      SB ($57.70)
      BB ($100)
      Hero ($146)
      UTG+1 ($60.25)
      UTG+2 ($106)
      MP1 ($49.50)
      CO ($134)
      BTN ($107)

      Dealt to Hero K:club: Q:heart:

      Hero raises to $3.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $3.50, fold, fold

      FLOP ($8.50) Q:club: 5:club: T:spade:

      Hero bets $6, BTN calls $6

      TURN ($20.50) Q:club: 5:club: T:spade: 6:spade:

      Hero bets $12, BTN calls $12

      RIVER ($44.50) Q:club: 5:club: T:spade: 6:spade: 3:heart:

      Hero checks, BTN bets $29, Hero calls $29

      2) On the flop i decided to raise a bit for value, to don't let him bluff me on later streets.

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
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      SB ($107)
      BB ($100)
      UTG ($100)
      UTG+1 ($99)
      UTG+2 ($62.65)
      Hero ($108)
      MP2 ($16.20)
      CO ($100)
      BTN ($111)

      Dealt to Hero J:diamond: J:club:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.50, fold, fold, BTN raises to $6, fold, fold, Hero calls $2.50

      FLOP ($13.50) 7:spade: 6:heart: Q:spade:

      Hero checks, BTN bets $3.50, Hero raises to $10, BTN calls $6.50

      TURN ($33.50) 7:spade: 6:heart: Q:spade: 9:club:

      Hero checks, BTN bets $5, Hero calls $5

      RIVER ($43.50) 7:spade: 6:heart: Q:spade: 9:club: 5:diamond:

      Hero checks, BTN bets $5, Hero calls $5

      3) Preflop I just call, because opponent is very tight and folding loads to 3bet. He has big fold flop CB vs raise, on the turn this stat would be even bigger, if he shove turn vs my raise it would be really agly spot, because i don't thnk he could shove worse hands there.

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      NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
      SB ($49)
      BB ($100)
      UTG ($109)
      UTG+1 ($107)
      UTG+2 ($100)
      Hero ($115)
      CO ($68.85)
      BTN ($106)

      Dealt to Hero K:spade: K:heart:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $3, fold, Hero calls $3, fold, fold, fold, fold

      FLOP ($7.50) 7:diamond: A:heart: 2:diamond:

      UTG+1 bets $6, Hero calls $6

      TURN ($19.50) 7:diamond: A:heart: 2:diamond: K:diamond:

      UTG+1 bets $12, Hero raises to $30, UTG+1 folds

      Hero shows K:spade: K:heart:

      Hero wins $41.35

      4) On the turn i have bad equity against his range, so i decided to chB. The question is would he bet smth like JJ on this river. If not then this is easy fold, cause there aren't so many missed draws without SD value. But he has 100%(6) bet vs missed turn CB OOP;
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      Board: 8s9s7h ah
      Dead:

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 30.380 % 29.360 % 2.041 % 68.599 % QhQd
      Player 2: 69.620 % 68.599 % 2.041 % 29.360 % KK-88, AsKs, AsQs, AsJs, ATs, KsQs, QsJs, JTs, T9s, ATo


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      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
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      SB ($100)
      BB ($100)
      UTG ($132)
      UTG+1 ($79.40)
      Hero ($109)
      MP1 ($49.50)
      CO ($100)
      BTN ($100)

      Dealt to Hero Q:diamond: Q:heart:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $6

      FLOP ($19.50) 8:spade: 9:spade: 7:heart:

      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $13, UTG+1 calls $13

      TURN ($45.50) 8:spade: 9:spade: 7:heart: A:heart:

      UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

      RIVER ($45.50) 8:spade: 9:spade: 7:heart: A:heart: 2 :diamond:

      UTG+1 bets $30, Hero?
    • Bordito
      Bordito
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.02.2007 Posts: 1,104
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BB (Hero):
      $32.54
      MP2:
      $22.82
      MP3:
      $19.91
      CO:
      $33.04
      BU:
      $33.44
      SB:
      $28.04


      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, K.
      4 folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50.

      Flop: ($1.5) 9, 7, 9 (2 players)
      SB bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25.

      Turn: ($4) A (2 players)
      SB bets $2.75, Hero raises to $7.00

      Opp: 26/20/2.0/13 54hands

      This is sth that I didnt do very often and I tried to add it to my game, which turns would u raise, would u ever raise the flop instead of call flop to float or to raise some turncards?
    • Bordito
      Bordito
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      Joined: 07.02.2007 Posts: 1,104
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      SB (Hero):
      $26.76
      BB:
      $41.97
      MP3:
      $21.85
      CO:
      $26.01
      BU:
      $35.03


      Preflop: Hero is SB with 8, 8.
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $2.75, Hero calls $2.00.

      Flop: ($5.5) T, 9, 3 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks.

      Turn: ($5.5) 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.00, BB calls $3.00.

      River: ($11.5) 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $6.00,Hero?

      Final Pot: $11.5.

      Opp: 22/18/2.0/21 5.9% 3bet 95 hands

      I dont think that I played the hand perfectly. Preflop Im not sure about 4 betting(I thought 88 were a bit to weak to 4bet there, although this guy was 3betting a bit more against me). Flop was a pretty easy c/f. On the turn I bet cause his range is sth like air or medium pairs he didnt have the balls to bet on the flop or some weak draws. On the river I think betting doesnt make much sense, so c/f or c/c?
    • Bordito
      Bordito
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.02.2007 Posts: 1,104
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $25.15
      SB:
      $25.10
      BB (Hero):
      $36.55
      MP2:
      $39.80
      MP3:
      $55.45
      CO:
      $25.00


      Preflop: Hero is BB with J, A.
      4 folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50.

      Flop: ($1.5) 8, 6, 3 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.00, SB raises to $3.50, Hero calls $2.50.

      Turn: ($8.5) K (2 players)
      SB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50.

      River: ($19.5) 5 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks.

      Opp: 20/20/5.3/33 cbet: 58%(10/17) 250 hands

      I think on the flop its very unlikely that hes c/raising a strong made hand, cause he definitely would cbet them to protect his hand. On the turn I think his valuerange gets even thinner cause there are not many hands that improved against me(K high flushdraws) and I think if hes having a semi-/bluff hes often betting the turn again cause Im repping a weaker pair or a draw myself.
      Would u call another bet on the river? I think I wont.
    • oksanka77
      oksanka77
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      Joined: 23.01.2009 Posts: 1,247
      I think that i should bet bigger on the turn and blockbet/call on the river. Because he won't call big bet with worse hands, against small bet he could raise missed draws, there are only few 6x in his range and a lot of Ax hands.

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
      SB ($39)
      BB ($124)
      UTG ($61.45)
      UTG+1 ($113)
      UTG+2 ($33.50)
      Hero ($105)
      BTN ($147)

      Dealt to Hero 5:spade: A:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $3, fold, fold

      FLOP ($7.50) 2:club: 5:club: 3:diamond:

      Hero bets $6, BTN calls $6

      TURN ($19.50) 2:club: 5:club: 3:diamond: 4:diamond:

      Hero bets $10, BTN calls $10

      RIVER ($39.50) 2:club: 5:club: 3:diamond: 4:diamond: T:diamond:

      Hero bets $12, BTN raises to $32.50, Hero folds

      BTN wins $60.50
    • SirLuk
      SirLuk
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.10.2006 Posts: 2,982
      Hand 1

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($26.26)
      BB ($52.84)
      Hero ($62.88)
      UTG+1 ($60.77) 23/19/4,1/2.1k
      CO ($50.75)
      BTN ($89.87)

      Dealt to Hero 8:club: 8:diamond:

      Hero raises to $2, UTG+1 calls $2, fold, fold, fold, fold

      FLOP ($4.75) 7:heart: J:diamond: 5:heart:

      Hero bets $3.01, UTG+1 raises to $9, Hero calls $5.99

      TURN ($22.75) 7:heart: J:diamond: 5:heart: 7:club:

      Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

      RIVER ($22.75) 7:heart: J:diamond: 5:heart: 7:club: T:club:

      Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $17, Hero calls $17

      Villain has 24 % raise cbet so i am still looking pretty strong agianst his range. On the turn i plan to c/c, after he checks its an easy c/c on this rather blankish river

      Hand 2

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($78.76)
      Hero ($50.75)
      UTG ($50)
      UTG+1 ($54.23)
      CO ($60.57)
      BTN ($107) 30/24/2,9/call 3bet 29%/Fold to cbet Flop(3bet) 44%/2k Hands

      Dealt to Hero 7:diamond: 5:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $1.50, fold, Hero raises to $5.50, BTN calls $4

      FLOP ($11.25) A:spade: 9:heart: K:spade:

      Hero bets $6, BTN calls $6

      TURN ($23.25) A:spade: 9:heart: K:spade: T:heart:

      Hero?

      Would you second barrel? He will fold all of his Kx hands also some Ax hands and his floats of course except QJ.

      Hand 3

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      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($46.73)
      BB ($29.91)
      Hero ($73.88)
      CO ($76.33) 17/6/0,6/Raise cbet 4%
      BTN ($63.66)

      Dealt to Hero Q:spade: K:spade:

      Hero raises to $2, CO calls $2, fold, fold, fold

      FLOP ($4.75) 4:spade: K:heart: 8:spade:

      Hero bets $3.01, CO raises to $6.02, Hero calls $3.01

      TURN ($16.79) 4:spade: K:heart: 8:spade: 6:club:

      Hero checks, CO bets $13.50,

      I just call the flop b/c i don't think KQ is good here ever. The weakest hand he could raise me with here is AQ imo. On the Turn i am not really sure if i can call this because i don't know if a second K or a Q is good here

      Hand 4

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($58.14) 24/22/5,0/3bet sb 18%(17)/200 Hands
      BB ($59.75)
      UTG ($51.94)
      UTG+1 ($50.75)
      Hero ($53.50)
      BTN ($50)

      Dealt to Hero 6:club: A:club:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, SB raises to $6, fold, Hero raises to $13, fold, SB calls $7

      FLOP ($28) K:spade: K:club: A:heart:

      SB bets $17,

      What would you do here? A fold is still the best option i guess