[NL2-NL10] NL10 SH - Big draws

    • StaticMoth
      StaticMoth
      Silver
      Joined: 22.05.2009 Posts: 2,642
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $10.00
      MP3:
      $7.79
      CO:
      $10.52
      BU (Hero):
      $10.40
      SB:
      $20.41
      BB:
      $12.00


      Preflop: Hero is BU with 9, T.
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.90, SB calls $0.90.

      Flop: ($3.6) 2, T, 5 (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.70, SB calls $2.70, BB folds.

      Turn: ($9) Q (2 players)
      SB bets $3.25, Hero raises to $6.50, SB calls $3.25.

      River: ($22) Q (2 players)


      Final Pot: $22.


      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $10.05
      BB:
      $10.00
      MP2:
      $12.01
      MP3 (Hero):
      $15.86
      CO:
      $10.81
      BU:
      $10.00


      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7, 6.
      MP2 raises to $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, 4 folds.

      Flop: ($0.85) 3, 2, 6 (2 players)
      MP2 bets $0.70, Hero raises to $2.51, MP2 raises to $4.32, Hero raises to $15.51, MP2 calls $7.34.

      Turn: ($28.02) 2 (2 players)


      River: ($28.02) 5 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $28.02.


      Are plays like this okay/profitable with such draws?
  • 3 replies
    • kymupa
      kymupa
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364
      #1 - You can fold preflop. You are not sure that SB is going to call and you have a difficult hand to play postflop.
      Postflop is fine.

      #2 - Against an overpair you are 50/50, against set you are 31/69, against overcards with FD you are 53/47. If you feel ok playing 50/50 situations its OK. I might play it the same way.
    • StaticMoth
      StaticMoth
      Silver
      Joined: 22.05.2009 Posts: 2,642
      Originally posted by kymupa
      #1 - You can fold preflop. You are not sure that SB is going to call and you have a difficult hand to play postflop.
      Postflop is fine.

      #2 - Against an overpair you are 50/50, against set you are 31/69, against overcards with FD you are 53/47. If you feel ok playing 50/50 situations its OK. I might play it the same way.
      Nice suited connectors in position on the button have a lot of potential
      And I was pretty sure SB was calling as well, so yeah, not much wondering about preflop here ... Though I wasn't paying attention to effective stacks, I just saw they were both over 120bb deep :f_biggrin:

      Was thinking more in terms like if I should peel one and shove on a turn that either hits me or looks scary for villain for more FE, instead of shipping it on the flop and definitely flipping :f_biggrin:

      But I guess if the turn looks scary I might get FE, but at the same time if that scary card happens to hit me, it might stop me from getting paid as well due to that increased FE ...

      So I guess it works both ways :f_biggrin:
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,


      Both hands are fine really.

      In the first one we're not really thrilled when SB calls the flop and donks the overcard turn, he could certainly have a set for calling/overcalling preflop and QT is possible as well. At the same time we can't really fold either without further reads for 2/3 pot with TP+FD, just have to hope he's capable of showing up with some naked draws in that spot too.

      Second hand is ok, a lot of your outs are very scary to any overpair, it's possible some opponents can actually fold an ugly turn instead of stacking off and they'll shove a blank turn into you and you'll have odds to call with your combodraw anyway or close to it given the stack sizes. Since you never know just how often people will actually talk themselves into folding some marginally better hand on the flop either, your best bet is usually to just force them to a flop decision and take away their ability to navigate turns as they wish by taking the flip.


      Hope it helps.