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[NL20-NL50] TPTK vs Set

    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      €0.25/€0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      42.72
      13.20
      73.35
      55.27
      50.75
      50.09
      14.25
      28.69
      44.35


      Preflop: Hero is SB with A, J.
      UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls €0.50, MP1 raises to €1.00, MP2 folds, MP3 calls €1.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to €3.50, 3 folds, MP3 calls €2.50.

      Flop: (€9) 4, 6, J (2 players)
      Hero bets €6.50, MP3 raises to €20.50, Hero calls €14.00.

      Turn: (€50) Q (2 players)
      Hero bets €26.09, MP3 calls €26.09.

      River: (€102.18) 8 (2 players)


      Final Pot: €102.18.

      I don't know why the positions are not appearing.
      Hero is SB with 50.09 and MP3 has 73.35

      MP3: VP:30/PR:22/AFq:38 over 46 hands.

      How should I have played this hand?
      I'm losing a bit of money with these TPTK that are running into a set, what should I do?
      MP3 was a bit loose that is why I commited myself.
      When someone limps and then calls a raise does it mean small pocket playing for set value and hence I should give up if I see him/her playing heavy? i.e here give up when get raised ?

      Thanks,
      Max
  • 3 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Just he can raise there with any flushdraw, also sometimes with any jx hand
      Only two hands that you´re likely loosing is 44/66. So I would prefer bet/shove on the flop
      Don´t know why you b/c flop and decided shove on the turn. If he had flushdraw he is calling, he might call with jx but other than taht don´t see more hands that you´re beating and he would call your shove
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      Ok thanks,
      I agree the shove on the turn is a bit silly.

      As a rule of thumb how do you play top pair top kicker on the flop when the opponent bets heavy. Are you ready to shove with TPTK?
      Looks like every time I do I'm against a set (btw he had 66).

      So I end up winning little (I bet on the flop and he fold) and losing a lot when I shove with my TPTK.

      How should I handle these situations?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      since it is 3-bet pot there are a lot more money in the pot, so it is very reasonable him to raise that board with draws or even Jx to priotect against draws.
      I wouldn´t fold tptk in 3-bet pot against unknowns. I might fold to players who have there always set, but until you can be sure imo more than 75% I wouldn´t b/f there tptk