[NL20-NL50] NL25 Full Ring. QQ. 4bet fold or 4bet call?

    • PocketAcesJohn
      PocketAcesJohn
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      Joined: 19.06.2008 Posts: 1,116
      Ok so i 4bet with QQ thinking SB is just on a re-steal. But then he shoves, when this hand happend if im honest my mind didnt have alot of thought going through it and i found my self calling with no logical thought process. Having re-thought the hand i feel my 4bet was fine, but that i should of folded to his shove as surley his range is just AA or KK now. What do you all think?


      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      UTG2:
      $54.50
      MP1:
      $25.99
      MP2:
      $42.37
      MP3:
      $25.00
      CO:
      $24.40
      BU:
      $30.46
      SB:
      $25.00
      BB (Hero):
      $25.85
      UTG1:
      $25.79


      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q.
      6 folds, BU raises to $0.75, SB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $7.50, BU folds, SB raises to $25.10, Hero calls $17.50.

      Flop: ($50.75) J, 4, 4 (2 players)


      Turn: ($50.75) 9 (2 players)


      River: ($50.75) T (2 players)


      Final Pot: $50.75.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows two pairs, queens and fours(Q Q).
      SB shows two pairs, kings and fours(K K).

      SB wins with two pairs, kings and fours(K K).
  • 4 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      once you 4-bet you can never fold to shove, since I think he should shove there close to 100% AK, also mostly QQ and sometimes JJ/TT
    • PocketAcesJohn
      PocketAcesJohn
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.06.2008 Posts: 1,116
      Even though that its FR not SH? I agree that if thats his range then you should be shoving though.

      Do you think though that I took the correct line or if not what night you of done diffrently?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by PocketAcesJohn
      Even though that its FR not SH? I agree that if thats his range then you should be shoving though.

      Do you think though that I took the correct line or if not what night you of done diffrently?
      Since it is Bu vs SB vs BB I think 4-betting there QQ is fine
      I guess you´re gonna stack off anyway if you have overpair on the flop, so you can also do that pf. but to keep dominated ranges in and unless your or other players have a lof of history by 3-betting and 4-bet bluffing then You can also consider calling and stacking off postflop if you hit that kind of board
    • PocketAcesJohn
      PocketAcesJohn
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      Joined: 19.06.2008 Posts: 1,116
      OK thank you for sharing =)