[NL20-NL50] NL25 SH - TPTK 3way pot with TPTK

    • tcs35
      tcs35
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      Joined: 31.01.2009 Posts: 3,583
      Right on the flop I am thinking folding isn't an option and I don't like calling either because I would rather just get the fish all in and get the other player out of the pot. I don't think the CO is got a strong hand if he just calls there.

      $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
      4 Players

      Stacks:
      CO ($30.14) (22/16/3, FDB: 19%)
      Hero ($27.27)
      SB ($36.90)
      BB ($10) (33/25/2, 50% donk bet)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 4 players) Hero is BTN J:spade: A:diamond:
      CO raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

      Flop: 7:spade: 5:diamond: J:diamond: ($2.35, 3 players)
      BB bets $2.35, CO calls $2.35, $2.35 to Hero ($26.52)?


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      Flop: 7:spade: 5:diamond: J:diamond: ($2.35, 3 players)
      BB bets $2.35, CO calls $2.35, Hero raises to $9.50, BB goes all-in $6.90, CO goes all-in $29.39, $17.02 to Hero ($17.02)?

      So I choose to raise and then get a caller and re popped from the CO. I am not worried about the fish shipping with worse Jacks, PP's, flush draws, straight draws, etc. When the CO shoves over the top I confused because his line doesnt make much sense to me.
  • 6 replies
    • fun101rockets
      fun101rockets
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      i think the co has an overpair or maybe the nut flush draw after his 3bet. I dont like the original raise either. think about the cos range:Jx,99+, flush draw. He is only calling with the part of his rnage that has u beat. I like flatting and reevaluating.
    • kymupa
      kymupa
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      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364
      What about 3bet preflop?

      Well his line is actually not that insensible. If he has a monster or OVP hes is more likely to be callng the fish bet and letting him going all in by himself on other streets.

      Of course he can be just calling there with weaker hand than yours. When you raise and he 3bet you have to be sure hes is 3betting with sth like that: JJ+, 77, 55, KdQd, J7s, Td9d, 9d8d, 8d7d, 8d6d, 75s. You have 23% against this range so that it won't be profitable to call.

      Both lines raising and calling but I like more raising to get a chance to play directy against the fish but when we got raised we really should go away.
    • tcs35
      tcs35
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      Originally posted by kymupa
      What about 3bet preflop?

      Well his line is actually not that insensible. If he has a monster or OVP hes is more likely to be callng the fish bet and letting him going all in by himself on other streets.

      Of course he can be just calling there with weaker hand than yours. When you raise and he 3bet you have to be sure hes is 3betting with sth like that: JJ+, 77, 55, KdQd, J7s, Td9d, 9d8d, 8d7d, 8d6d, 75s. You have 23% against this range so that it won't be profitable to call.

      Both lines raising and calling but I like more raising to get a chance to play directy against the fish but when we got raised we really should go away.
      3bet preflop is a horrible line to take i personally think. is CO ever calling worse? no
    • fun101rockets
      fun101rockets
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      i agree a 3bet pf is bad. aj is not part of my value or bluff 3bet range.
    • kymupa
      kymupa
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      Our hand is most often ahead against his range and it will be good if he fold it right here. Plus you are in position too. And he might call wtih some pockets or KQ sometimes imo.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      to me AJ is standard 3-bet ip.
      If you´r 3-bet % is over 10% on the BU they have to start calling with worse hands oop
      Postflop: Once you raise you have to call shove. Likely co would shove there every flushdraw, since he can´t really call them oop