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[NL20-NL50] NL50 KK difficult turn situation

    • Alan883
      Alan883
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.12.2008 Posts: 1,941
      I was faced with very difficult situation on turn.

      I become a little bit experienced over time but still i think i have very much to learn.

      Is there a possibility to act here differently?


      Is there a possibility that his shove is pure bluff?




      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $49.25
      SB:
      $63.92
      BB:
      $29.44
      MP2:
      $66.79
      MP3 (Hero):
      $74.34
      CO:
      $50.00


      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, K.
      MP2 raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $6.00, 4 folds, MP2 calls $4.25.

      Flop: ($12.75) 9, Q, 2 (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $8.00, MP2 calls $8.00.

      Turn: ($28.75) J (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $18.00, MP2 raises to $52.79, Hero folds, MP2 gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $46.75.


      Thanks guys
  • 5 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      it is never pure bluff, but h can easily shove turn with Qx hand or JT, KJ or smt like that
      Once you bet turn, imo you can´t fold to shove
    • Alan883
      Alan883
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.12.2008 Posts: 1,941
      But u really think that this kind of player is capable of shoving that with Qx hand or JT, KJ as u said.


      He seems to be good player.
    • dandycal
      dandycal
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 1,711
      Interesting spot. But yeah, I guess we really can't fold this turn after we bet, the pot is far too big.

      What can we put him on though, for calling a 3bet pre flop? I guess TT, JJ, QQ, AK, AQ are possibilities. I see him mostly shoving JJ, slow played QQ, and AK :diamond: there.


      @Kaitz: would you play the turn differently, or do you like just bet/calling?
    • Alan883
      Alan883
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.12.2008 Posts: 1,941
      Basically i really dont see other option than bet here and shove river.

      But that shove very surprised me and as we were a little bit deep i decided to fold since i really didnt see an option that he has worse hand.

      Maybe he was slowplaying AA also. I see that often.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by dandycal
      Interesting spot. But yeah, I guess we really can't fold this turn after we bet, the pot is far too big.

      What can we put him on though, for calling a 3bet pre flop? I guess TT, JJ, QQ, AK, AQ are possibilities. I see him mostly shoving JJ, slow played QQ, and AK :diamond: there.


      @Kaitz: would you play the turn differently, or do you like just bet/calling?
      Depends what is hero image. I think his range can be as wide as: KQ+; 55-JJ, Aj+ Mostly he should get all-in preflop with QQ+/AK
      Turn is not the safest card in the deck. I would b/c likely 50% and check back 50% of times. But again it depends what is my image. If he sees me 35/30 with 3-bet on the Bu close to 15%-20% it is b/c to me 100% of times, since he would c/rai with any top pair hand