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Is this EV+?

    • vmarqui
      vmarqui
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      Joined: 25.01.2010 Posts: 4,816
      I've seen some people open raise by shoving in FR NL10 rush poker. Never called before, but this time I had QQ. Should I have called, or there was no doubt they had KK+?
      Btw raiser was big stacked too.
  • 9 replies
    • Escobario
      Escobario
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      Joined: 17.01.2009 Posts: 183
      probably somone just scared of playing their AA postflop cos rush poker is walking though a (set)minefield.

      easy fold imo
    • supeyrio
      supeyrio
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      Joined: 11.11.2009 Posts: 3,106
      tilty fish i guess
    • Jepons13
      Jepons13
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      Joined: 13.12.2009 Posts: 43
      People who open shove almost never have KK+ usually they have random crap why would someone want to loose so much value in just pushing Aces? Even fish know that.

      With QQ its a instant call for me.
    • RMB
      RMB
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      Joined: 29.03.2008 Posts: 599
      Originally posted by Jepons13
      People who open shove almost never have KK+ usually they have random crap why would someone want to loose so much value in just pushing Aces? Even fish know that.

      With QQ its a instant call for me.
      Really instant call?

      I actually agree with Escobario, there are alot of people that do this with QQ+ because they dont know what to do postflop..

      Now i can see myself folding QQ depending on who it is, A couple of hands to observe would answer that question.. KK+ wouldnt fold that..

      Even if it was a fish, it wouldnt be too hard to outplay them postflop anyways, so you could always wait for another hand.
    • vmarqui
      vmarqui
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      next time i'm just calling to see what happens :f_p:
    • Escobario
      Escobario
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      i think the important thi ng to remember its nl10, cant assume fish know anything
    • Jepons13
      Jepons13
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      Joined: 13.12.2009 Posts: 43
      I don't know about rush but in simple cash games I allways call and they show up crap. Like Ax; Kx or 22-99.
    • GunFlavoured
      GunFlavoured
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      Joined: 19.10.2008 Posts: 626
      I've called an open 100BB shove once in Rush with KK and naturally they had AA, personally I think calling KK+ is ok (for Rush, a bit looser for normal cash games I guess?). I doubt too many fish would do this in Rush poker purely because they can fold and wait for a better hand. More likely they are sick of set miners cracking AA, I can sympathise.
    • ihufa
      ihufa
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      Joined: 18.03.2008 Posts: 3,323
      if it's a winning player fold, if it's a losing player call. atleast that's how i'd make my decision