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[NL20-NL50] jj nl 25 (6max)

    • maykel
      maykel
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.06.2008 Posts: 121
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BB:
      $12.50
      MP2:
      $33.20
      MP3 (Hero):
      $25.00
      CO:
      $17.50
      BU:
      $45.51
      SB:
      $60.85


      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J, J.
      MP2 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, CO raises to $1.75, BU folds, SB calls $1.65, BB folds, Hero calls $0.75.

      Flop: ($5.5) 3, 8, 7 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $4.00, CO calls $4.00, SB raises to $16.56, Hero..?

      is better 4b/shove pre flop?

      villians: co unknown
      sb:17/20/200 hands
  • 4 replies
    • Alan883
      Alan883
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.12.2008 Posts: 1,941
      CO is probably fish with his raise. But we have to be carefull here. Such moves indicates monster hand lot of times so we must be carefull here.


      but i dont have a clue how would i react in that situation....so strange spot:)


      I really look forward to se judges oppinion. Kaitz20 will be happy to judge this one.:)
    • dandycal
      dandycal
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 1,711
      yeah, I also see a lot of fish min-3betting monsters. We get great oods for calling pre-flop, but then the question is whether we'll go broke with an overpair. Cause if we are, then we might as well push pre-flop and get more value against AK/AQ and his bad calls with lower PPs.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      against his stack size I´d likely just 4-bet pf to 7$ and call shove
      He can do that with wider range than aces/kings and until you have some reads it is mostly aces I would just take that as standard situation adn 4-bet pf JJ
      Postlfop: really difficult and I think fold is a little better than shove
      Don´t think SB is making too many moves with air, so he either has there draws, sometimes 99/TT or set, sometimes QQ+. JJ is not doing the best against these range
    • aciddrop
      aciddrop
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.10.2006 Posts: 1,519
      SB coldcalling OOP preflop against a R and weak 3bet is first alarm bell for me. So I like calling here.

      His flop line is very strong, so easy fold as played.

      I would check the flop, letting CO cbet his range, and see what SB did then. If he raised after that, I would expect an overpair, if he just called, more likely a set looking for more value.