[NL2-NL10] calling down 4bet pot

    • cutegoldfish
      cutegoldfish
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.11.2009 Posts: 4,335
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      €0.05/€0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      10.05
      6.71
      10.72
      16.77
      2.23
      11.49


      Preflop: Hero is CO with A, K.
      MP2 raises to €0.40, MP3 folds, Hero raises to €1.20, 3 folds, MP2 raises to €3.00, Hero calls €1.80.

      Flop: (€6.15) T, 8, T (2 players)
      MP2 bets €4.00, Hero folds, MP2 gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $6.15.


      i thought that his holdings was likely to be JJ+,AK, and he was likely to hold onto the feared AA or KK although not very likely. i decided to call down the 4bet pot and go broke if i hit A or K and fold if nothing comes
  • 4 replies
    • johnbeattie85
      johnbeattie85
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.09.2008 Posts: 716
      You will make a pair or better around 33% I think. If his range is JJ, AK+, your flop equity vs his stack off range is going to be meh since he might get away from JJ QQ on Ax, Kx. When you consider the 67% of times that you have to check/fold the flop, your plan is massive -EV. Better to either fold to 4bet, or shove depending on player.
    • kymupa
      kymupa
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      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364
      Just shove or fold pre depending on the player.
    • Mstlc
      Mstlc
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.03.2009 Posts: 4,676
      If this is shorthanded you jam pre-flop.
      Calling 4bets 100bb deep with AKo is plain terrible... also think about this... are you ever flat calling vs a 4bet with Kings or Aces here?

      If it's full ring and/or villain is kind of nitty then fold vs a 4bet but in all other cases please get it in.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by johnbeattie85
      You will make a pair or better around 33% I think. If his range is JJ, AK+, your flop equity vs his stack off range is going to be meh since he might get away from JJ QQ on Ax, Kx. When you consider the 67% of times that you have to check/fold the flop, your plan is massive -EV. Better to either fold to 4bet, or shove depending on player.
      +1
      After 4-bet I´d shove AK