[NL2-NL10] funny check raise

    • cutegoldfish
      Joined: 19.11.2009 Posts: 4,335
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3 (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, 9.
      Hero raises to $0.30, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20.

      Flop: ($0.65) 3, T, 8 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB raises to $1.10, Hero folds, BB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $1.05.

      opponent has 67% check raise frequency. should i have given up that hand or called and barrelled the turn again? i dont believe he has better holdings. however it was likely that he was going to barrel the turn after the check raise.
  • 4 replies
    • johnbeattie85
      Joined: 11.09.2008 Posts: 716
      If that is over a decent sample, I would check behind and hope to hit one of your backdoor draws or a pair. The point of making a cbet here is to make BB fold his air and underpair/bottom pair. You want him to fold air since it usually has around 6 outs and it's hard to get to showdown if he bets. If his check/raise frequency is so high, he is playing his air aggressively, so the value of making a cbet is diminished in a situation where it's hard to play back (this one). Combined with the fact that you have showdown value and can hit good turn cards, I think checking is better.
    • Mstlc
      Joined: 14.03.2009 Posts: 4,676
      Bad board to be c-betting on... it's somewhat connected, T high and has a flush draw. He not folding any flush or straight draws here for sure. He's not folding Tx, he ain't folding any pocket pair...

      The only hands you're folding out here are broadway pretty much... so check behind and hope for a good turn card. Any spade en most jack or 7 turns will significantly improve the equity of your hand.

      As played you have to fold vs his check/raise, eventhou it's a small check/raise I wouldn't go nuts on this board as he could very easily have a flush draw with overcards and if that's the case he's never folding here any more.
    • Gabinr1
      Joined: 05.04.2009 Posts: 7,755
      67% check raise frequency
      I would 3bet Flop $4. He probably has air. Also, my 3bet would consider his WTS, VPMIP/PFR and Fold To Cbet.

      But, basically, if you know he has such a big c/r frequency, you should just forget about bluff cbeting.
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      you get attacked sometimes that board
      if you afraid that he might c/r then check back flop, call turn and decide on the river
      I think 3-bet bluff or float here is not the best idea, since he would shove his draws and likely would barrel any turn card if you call