Hand Evaluation Coaching Silver 15.06. - Post here

    • hasenbraten
      hasenbraten
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      Please post hands for todays coaching (15.06.2010).
      Add your own thoughts, questions and any further information you have towards your opponent.

      Your hands will be discussed during the coaching

      Kind regards

      hasenbraten

      and

      Bierbaer
  • 8 replies
    • Malente
      Malente
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      Joined: 25.04.2009 Posts: 2,479
      edit: Perhabs I wont be able to join you. It would be nice if you could post the results of my hands.

      1)
      No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      Button ($108.05)
      SB ($107)
      BB ($76.60)
      Hero (UTG) ($120.65)
      MP ($281)
      CO ($100)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10:spade: , 10:club:
      Hero bets $4, 3 folds, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold

      Flop: ($9) 6:spade: , 8:heart: , 2:diamond: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6

      Turn: ($21) J:heart: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $14, SB calls $14

      River: ($49) 3:spade: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero ???

      21/19 125hands 3betting 9%(44)

      turnbet ok?
      bet or cb? if bet how big?






      2)
      No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      CO ($103)
      Button ($31.90)
      Hero (SB) ($100.50)
      BB ($101.50)
      UTG ($103.15)
      MP ($100)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A:club: , 10:club:
      2 folds, CO bets $3, 1 fold, Hero raises $10.50, 1 fold, CO calls $8

      Flop: ($23) 7:heart: , 6:spade: , A:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $9, CO calls $9

      Turn: ($41) J:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks

      River: ($41) 6:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $80.50 (All-In)



      same guy like the hand above, but I didnt notice it.

      when he checks back I put him on sdv. therefore he does not expect me to bluff... so when I bet I do it for value.
      hence this is a bad overbet?
    • vonki
      vonki
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      doublepost
    • vonki
      vonki
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      Hand 1)

      villain is a reg playing 17/13 with 0% 3bet in ~150 hands. Raises 12% so far from CO. He got 3bet 4 times and called 2, folded 2. Vs PFR he folded 2/3 times to cbet and raised once (which was also a 3bet pot).

      The 3bet is no discussion about I like it evey day of the week, and the cbet is ofc superstandard too. But the tricky part comes when he decides to raise me... I mean, I didn't look enough at the stats before I decided what to do, but I figured that I had a pretty decent hand against alot of things... Thinking about it though, I'm not sure how many hands he's really gonna raise on this flop... TT/QQ/99 obv which are still in his range, KJ he's gonna want to raise too and JJ maybe, with the J of hearts but yea... Anyways... I decided on this flop I wanted to ship the moniez in and I thought he would be willing to aswell since he has raised.
      Am I right to raise here or should I just call and what do I do on a ugly turncard? Let's say a J hits, or a K or a 8 that aint a heart... :[

      $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
      5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Paris_msu84 ($53.15)
      CO OMG_KakogoHrena ($51.20)
      BTN SWIFT3117 ($12.15)
      SB Hero ($61.30)
      BB Longzar ($62.10)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is SB A:heart: A:diamond:
      1 fold, OMG_KakogoHrena raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, OMG_KakogoHrena calls $3.50

      Flop: Q:heart: 10:heart: 9:heart: ($10.50, 2 players)
      Hero bets $6.50, OMG_KakogoHrena raises to $16.50, Hero goes all-in $56.30

      Hand 2)

      This one isn't all that tricky really, I just wanna know if my thoughts are as good as I thought they were... I tried to read him as well as I could.

      He plays 17/13 with 6% 3bet in 300 hands so just a normal reg. He raises 15% from MP but I feel no need to 3bet for value here, nor as a bluff as I feel there is more value to extract by just calling and playing postflop. A lower pair could have been squeezable imo but TT I still like playing postflop with. Sure it sucks to play OOP but I don't really mind... I like practising that too =)

      So anyways. Flop isn't scary to my hand, I feel I'm ahead alot of the times but I don't like donking as that imo looks stronger then check/calling since one of them might bet hands they might not be willing to call a donkbet with. I don't like to c/r either as I feel that only isolates me against better hands and I won't be getting any value on later streets. So comes the turncard, and I check again expecting him to check behind very often since I don't see him having like JJ or a Q or even a stronger hand in his range very often at all. My intention is (or should be) to bet the river, to extract value from lower pocketpairs like 99 and 77... for some reason I didn't. I guess I changed my mind for some reason :) When he bets however, I know that he isn't very likely to have me beat, since he wouldnt check JJ behind on the turn, nor a Q should he have hit that, not when he checks turn. Long story short: I call the river. Should I indeed have bet instead or is it better to let him try to bluff the river? Will he try often enough?

      $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
      5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG DannyReyns ($50.75)
      CO BadNewsEveryone ($51.50)
      BTN SlipperPoes ($50)
      SB sit out 222 ($23.10)
      BB Hero ($52.35)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is BB 10:spade: 10:heart:
      1 fold, BadNewsEveryone raises to $1.75, SlipperPoes calls $1.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.25

      Flop: 4:club: 7:club: 8:heart: ($5.50, 3 players)
      Hero checks, BadNewsEveryone bets $4, SlipperPoes folds, Hero calls $4

      Turn: Q:diamond: ($13.50, 2 players)
      Hero checks, BadNewsEveryone checks

      River: 3:spade: ($13.50, 2 players)
      Hero checks, BadNewsEveryone bets $8, Hero calls $8

      Final Pot: $29.50
    • vonki
      vonki
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      $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
      6 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Hero ($50)
      UTG+1 Evgen12345 ($52)
      CO six 4 suited ($84.85)
      BTN geoelt ($53.10)
      SB 04197217 ($23.85)
      BB lvt8899 ($18.40)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is UTG Q:club: J:club:
      Hero raises to $1.75, Evgen12345 calls $1.75, 4 folds

      Flop: 5:club: 3:club: A:club: ($4.25, 2 players)
      Hero bets $2.50, Evgen12345 raises to $8, Hero calls $5.50

      Turn: K:heart: ($20.25, 2 players)
      Hero checks, Evgen12345 bets $15, Hero goes all-in $40.25

      16/13/5 stats in 100 hands

      Obv I expected him to call the turn, should I just have raised flop again or just call turn? What's the best way to play it?
    • Fongie
      Fongie
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      Joined: 02.12.2006 Posts: 4,978
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      NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
      SB ($54.50)
      BB ($99.50)
      UTG ($100)
      Hero ($117)
      BTN ($138)

      Dealt to Hero T:club: A:heart:

      fold, Hero raises to $3, BTN raises to $10, fold, fold, Hero raises to $23, BTN calls $13

      FLOP ($47.50) 3:heart: 5:heart: 2:club:

      Hero checks, BTN checks

      TURN ($47.50) 3:heart: 5:heart: 2:club: J:heart:

      Hero checks, [color=red]BTN bets $27

      villain 28/22 7% bu 3bet 57% fold to 4bet
    • vonki
      vonki
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      $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
      6 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ShipItHereNhTy ($61.70)
      UTG+1 XuxiSanchez ($50)
      CO skolar9 ($101.50)
      BTN maxwell675 ($56.60)
      SB Hero ($50)
      BB M0H1T ($59.35)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is SB K:spade: A:diamond:
      2 folds, skolar9 calls $0.50, maxwell675 raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $7.50, M0H1T calls $7, skolar9 folds, maxwell675 goes all-in $56.60

      Interesting spot imo.

      CO is fish, plays 61/1/0 in like 90 hands, BU plays 47/31/2.7 in 133 hands, BB plays 38/3/0 in 60 hands.

      I should have made the 3bet bigger I guess seing the fishes. I think it's BU's first 4bet and that looks pretty strong right? But he could also just see tons of dead money and go crazy... I dont know if he ecpects me to 3bet light but I normally never do 3bet very light so... thoughts? What do I do here?
    • nickvdb1990
      nickvdb1990
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      Joined: 18.01.2010 Posts: 1,753
      $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
      FullTiltPoker
      8 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG fawwwwk ($8)
      UTG+1 Hero ($26.28)
      MP1 equisg22 ($13.04)
      MP2 wheo8 ($12)
      CO Sir Binksworth ($25)
      BTN thisismycareer ($34.48)
      SB gofish2419 ($17.25)
      BB TheBAMF876 ($27.33)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is UTG+1 2:heart: 2:diamond:
      1 fold, Hero raises to $1 ($25.28), equisg22 calls $1 ($12.04), 3 folds, gofish2419 calls $0.90 ($16.25), 1 fold

      Flop: Q:club: 2:club: 2:spade: ($3.25, 3 players)
      gofish2419 checks ($16.25), Hero bets $2 ($23.28), equisg22 folds ($12.04), gofish2419 folds ($16.25)

      Final Pot: $5.25

      Hero wins $5.09 (net +$2.09)

      gofish2419 lost $1
      equisg22 lost $1
    • vonki
      vonki
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      $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
      5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Hero ($91.60)
      CO SCH08 ($50)
      BTN OOOOBlubbOOOO ($54.10)
      SB Loupen ($49.95)
      BB The Sjygeste ($88)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is UTG 10:spade: 9:spade:
      Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Loupen raises to $5.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $4

      Flop: 10:diamond: 6:diamond: 7:club: ($12, 2 players)
      Loupen bets $7, Hero calls $7

      Turn: 3:heart: ($26, 2 players)
      Loupen checks, Hero checks

      River: 8:spade: ($26, 2 players)
      Loupen bets $20

      Okay. Actually a tilthand pretty much... hihih. The call preflop isnt the best but my judgement was clouded VERY MUCH SO.

      The guy plays 18/10/6.7 in 180 hands.

      And once he bets so small I'm like ooo. That look's a bit weak considering all the draws and stuff and I have some outs to hit and oh well It's cheap and I'm tilting so I'm just gonna call.
      First thought on turn, OOO, he's giving up I'm gonna bet! But then I changed my mind and was like no no nooo. You're trapping me arent you? It's stupid to bet anyways if i'm ahead you wont call... So I managed to talk myself into not betting.
      Then river... and now I'm like woho I sucked out! and then... hmm? What the... O_o eventually. I got scared and I was tilted ofcccc so I didnt know what to do. I mean what does he hold in this spot and what do i do?

      ..