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[NL20-NL50] NL25 - FR - AJo - TPTK on Turn ~ Dry Board - Vs Fish

    • wowadvisor
      wowadvisor
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      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (3 handed)

      Known players:
      SB (Hero):
      $38.79
      BB:
      $25.00
      BU:
      $11.78


      Preflop: Hero is SB with J, A.
      BU folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50.

      Flop: ($1.5) 5, 8, 4 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.00, BB calls $1.00.

      Turn: ($3.5) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50.

      River: ($8.5) 8 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $4.04, Hero calls $4.04.

      Final Pot: $16.58.

      conti bet on the flop because its so dry.. he would only call a small overpair.

      I then bet the turn since i actually got TPTK now on a very dry board.

      I know its a small pot but still unsure..

      please give me advice

      thank you
  • 6 replies
    • Gabinr1
      Gabinr1
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      I would change River. You can also bet/fold there, instead of c/c. Because 99,77,66, TT , TPWK (Ax) would call but not bet.

      87, 89 is in villain range. So bet/fold is probably better, a bet to $3-4 is ok and fold to any raise.


      In this case Villain bet small (1/2 pot) and you can call it hoping to see 56, 46, 45, 57, Ax. To a bigger bet I think folding is imaginable, because I think any Ax would prefer to just check behind (basically any hand that just calls turn and you beat would check behind)


      So, there's more value in B/F River than in C/C.
    • wowadvisor
      wowadvisor
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      i see what you mean,

      its like you bet for value on the river, but fold to action - because you are beat then anyway ..

      if you check call.. the fish only bets with better hands and checks worse hands...

      i see what you mean

      thank you very much for the comment
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by wowadvisor
      i see what you mean,

      its like you bet for value on the river, but fold to action - because you are beat then anyway ..

      if you check call.. the fish only bets with better hands and checks worse hands...

      i see what you mean

      thank you very much for the comment
      well that isn´t I think 100% true that fish would only bet better hands
      I think when he floated with Ax, he can easily bet worse hands or if he had some kind of missed straight draw
      I think both b/f or c/c are fine on the river
    • Gabinr1
      Gabinr1
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      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      I think both b/f or c/c are fine on the river
      Yes, but what if villain bets $8 instead of 4?
    • wowadvisor
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      the bigger the bet from the fish ... the stronger his hand i suppose.. so my line was actually fine.

      thank you both
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by Gabinr1
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      I think both b/f or c/c are fine on the river
      Yes, but what if villain bets $8 instead of 4?
      there comes your poker skills into play.
      Does it really make him sense to bet there near the pot with trips thinking we´re going to c/c or he might be just bluffing with 97 thinking he has no showdown value. I´ve seen fishes often betting pot on the turn and river after I´ve checked to them, so they doesn´t have to need to have there nuts. You don´t always have to take safer b/f line to control the pot size, it is more important to maximize your winnings.