[NL2-NL10] treps over treps

    • summermonkey
      summermonkey
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.12.2009 Posts: 483
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      CO (Hero):
      $1.94
      BU:
      $1.21
      SB:
      $5.00
      BB:
      $5.00
      UTG1:
      $3.02
      UTG2:
      $9.03
      MP1:
      $2.00
      MP2:
      $2.10
      MP3:
      $1.59


      Preflop: Hero is CO with 3, 3.
      UTG1 folds, UTG2 raises to $0.06, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.06, 3 folds.

      Flop: ($0.15) 9, 3, T (2 players)
      UTG2 bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10.

      Turn: ($0.35) 5 (2 players)
      UTG2 bets $0.26, Hero raises to $0.64, UTG2 raises to $6.34, Hero calls $1.14.

      River: ($8.47) J (2 players)


      Final Pot: $8.47.

      Results follow:

      UTG2 shows three of a kind, nines(9s 9c).
      Hero shows three of a kind, threes(3d 3c).

      UTG2 wins with three of a kind, nines(9s 9c).


      Was it a right all in? I put him on an overpair and so when i hit treps, i was ready to go all in.
  • 2 replies
    • Mstlc
      Mstlc
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.03.2009 Posts: 4,676
      Call the flop.

      Call the turn. The line you're taking now is generally seen as extremely strong. Any player some expierence knows that people that call the flop and then raise the turn all of a sudden always have a very strong hand. By raising here you might put him off Tx hands + the board isn't really dangerous either or anything so calling is fine.

      Shove the river.
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,

      Originally posted by Mstlc
      Call the flop.

      Call the turn. The line you're taking now is generally seen as extremely strong. Any player some experience knows that people that call the flop and then raise the turn all of a sudden always have a very strong hand. By raising here you might put him off Tx hands + the board isn't really dangerous either or anything so calling is fine.

      Shove the river.
      This certainly makes sense. Part of the reason the call flop raise turn line looks so strong is because tags don't raise the turn with draws, which gives you two main ways to avoid taking that first.

      The first one is the one Mstlc suggested, you continue to represent Tx by just calling to make sure he continues to valuebet his overpair with confidence and hopefully commits himself on the river, since you shoving the river will look just about as strong as you raising the turn, so the better odds he'll be getting will be the only incentive for him to call it off more often on the river than on the turn.

      The second one would be to simply raise the flop right away, so that you can continue to represent stuff like QJ that is semibluffing, or complete air that just decided villain can't have anything on that board. This has the added benefits of getting money in because the board gets any scarier for villain, with like 8/K turn that make QJ get there and possibly are overcards to villain's QQ or something. The major drawback of that line is that people at microstakes just aren't willing to call down check/raise bet shove lines with one pair hands and for good reasons, people are rarely bluffing when they do it.

      So I'd side with Mstlc on this one and go call call shove, even if the second option is worth thinking about, especially when you start moving up.


      Hope it helps.