[NL2-NL10] middle pair calling flop bet

    • cutegoldfish
      cutegoldfish
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.11.2009 Posts: 4,335
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $5.25
      CO (Hero):
      $8.80
      BU:
      $5.81
      SB:
      $3.88
      BB:
      $5.81
      UTG2:
      $4.67
      MP1:
      $4.00
      MP2:
      $7.17


      Preflop: Hero is CO with T, T.
      UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 calls $0.05, MP3 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.45, 3 folds, MP1 calls $0.40, MP2 calls $0.40, MP3 calls $0.40.

      Flop: ($1.87) 2, 3, J (4 players)
      MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets $1.05, Hero calls $1.05, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

      Turn: ($3.97) Q (2 players)
      MP3 bets $3.75(All-In), Hero folds, MP3 gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $3.97.


      i thought that in a multiway pot he was likely to have top pair or better but i had position and decided to call and re-evaluate the turn. would folding be too weak here?
  • 3 replies
    • letmewinplz8
      letmewinplz8
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.05.2010 Posts: 439
      He just called preflop so is range is somewhat strengthened. Sure he can have some draws - but these will often second barrel and even triple if they miss. You are going to get into some very tough turn (and river) spots by calling here and I would just fold the flop.
    • N0pr3s3n7
      N0pr3s3n7
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 14.05.2009 Posts: 1,274



      i thought that in a multiway pot he was likely to have top pair or better but i had position and decided to call and re-evaluate the turn. would folding be too weak here?

      how come folding is weak since you think he got you beat ? Just fold and look ahead
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,


      Agreed. Folding when you're obviously beat, or at least in a spot where it's very likely unprofitable to continue with the hand, it's just playing good. It's when you start folding as a default because it's "easier" that you become weak.

      Here even if you're right about being ahead of MP3 he probably has a lot of outs with a draw, and MP1/MP2 could end up check/raising the both of you sometimes too. Even if they don't, you likely can't call a turn bet which MP3 is likely to make even if he's drawing. If you're wrong however, you're 2-outing and that's it. Just get out of the way and feel fine about it.


      Hope it helps.