What should i play? SNG, cash or MTT?

    • Alficor1
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      I found out really "bad" thing.. i'm avarage at every poker game - SNG's, HU SNG's, MTT's, cash... there's nothing i'm particularly good at, i can play everything with small profit. The thing is, if i play cash, my winrate is pretty small, if i play sng's (HU or FR or whatever), i'm also in small profit, the same with MTT's - i ussually finish ITM, but like 50th or something, so i just get my BI back plus a little something. Although i do enjoy MTT's the best, it just sucks if i grind for three hours and just get like 0,6 USD for it.. so far my biggest succes is just 7th place in Lucky dollar tournament at bwin. And also some 14th place at FTP freeroll.
      I mean, every player is a specialist at something.. durrrr is HU specialist, Phil Hellmuth is one of the best at tourneys, Antonius is cash game specialist... I'm not specialist at anything, i'm just avarage winner at everything. what do you guys think i should concentrate on? Or isn't just poker the right thing for me at all?
      Thank you very much
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    • NightFrostaSS
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      Why don't you just play whatever you like most and see how it goes
    • MatejM47
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      Well I like MTT's the most as well. Its always a great feeling making a final table. But it also sucks in a way because when you start up an MTT you can expect to be stuck there for the next 5 hours or even more. So personally my focus is on STT atm and sometimes some larger MTT's on the weekends.

      But yeah, considering your and avreage player in everything, why dont you try to focus on one form of poker and get to be a good player there. Its hard to master 3 different types of poker at once. And personally im playing 6.50 sngs on stars and running with 16% roi over like 2k tournaments and im not even that good so they are pretty much beatable with out much of a problem, just play around with ICM and watch the videos since it really helps a lot to hear how better players think in some situations.
    • Alficor1
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      I think i'm gonna focus on MTT's, because the pricepool is more interesting than at sngs. :) I've already played 3 at Absolute Poker and finished ITM in everyone. I know 3 is not much, but at least it makes me more confident for future. But what's more important, i needed to get lucky just once in every tourney, which i think is better then if i won one tourney by just playing bad and getting lucky all the time, right? I'm quite proud of it esp when i see some players who wouldnt even make blind level 2 without getting lucky. :)
      Plus i cant really stand those donks in CG moving in with any two suited cards and cracking your aces... i think you get sucked out in MTT's less often. I can get over that normal AK vs QQ thing, but sometimes i really steam over AA vs Q4s thing.
    • Cardbender
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      I play MTTs mainly.

      Just remember variance sucks in MTT's so be prepared for long lossing streaks. "Not hitting big cashes 200$+" and try to stick to 100 bi BRM "3$Rebuy tourney count as 9-12$ so 900-1200$ bank roll"

      The 2$-4$ 180 man tourneys are a good starting point for learning MTT play fyi..

      jusy my 0.02$

      gl
    • MatejM47
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      Yeah those 2$ 180 mans on stars are super fishy. About 150 players there has no idea whatsoever what they're doing. And there are also some vids here on 180 mans that you really should watch before you start playing them.
    • conall88
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      if you figured you have leaks, why don't you take the next step and fix em :o
    • pzhon
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      I think you are overestimating how often you will cash in MTTs. If you could get a minimum cash each time, that would actually be a high ROI, but many people find that when they play to make it into the money, they might cash 30% of the time, but lose money over all because they almost never go deep after making it into the money. It might be possible to do better than that in some microstakes MTTs, but if 10% of the field is paid, then the average stack is 10 times the initial stack when the bubble bursts. You may need to double up several times to have an average stack on the bubble.

      By the way, poker isn't about getting your money in with the best hand. Poker is a fight for the dead money. Good tournament play means you should give and receive many bad beats.

      I recommend finding a form of poker you like, and then getting more experience with it. If you enjoy MTTs but find it frustrating that they take a long time, then you may want to consider multitable SNGs with 27-45 players. These run much more often than MTTs, and they take less time to complete.
    • conall88
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      what he said :D

      for me as a rule of thumb, I want ~135 BI's for MTTs before I consider myself relatively safe. this is for a field of 400 players or less. any more than that and I would go for 150ish.

      By the way, poker isn't about getting your money in with the best hand
      Absolutely. Its not about winning as much as possible ( wreckless fish mentality) but where you are going to win the greatest amount possible for minimum risk. Bubble play pretty much highlights this.
    • cjchalmers
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      Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
      Why don't you just play whatever you like most and see how it goes
      I agree with this .. the most important thing is you are having fun to start ... skill and cash will come :)