[NL2-NL10] NL 2 SH - call shove QQ preflop against tight player

    • mrauter
      mrauter
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.03.2010 Posts: 200
      Ok, this is my first post here, so, hi guys (and girls)..

      here is the hand:

      $0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      CO = ($5.49)
      BU = ($5.55)
      SB = ($4.16)
      BB = ($0.50)
      MP2 = ($1.47)
      MP3 (Hero) = ($3.13)

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q.
      MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, CO folds, BU raises to $0.27, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, BU raises to $5.55, Hero calls $2.53.

      Flop: ($8.71) Q, 7, 9 (2 players)


      Turn: ($8.71) 7 (2 players)


      River: ($8.71) A (2 players)


      Final Pot: $8.71.

      villain was 16/10 and 7% 3-bet over 165 hands.

      BB and SB are very loose donks and i was 3-betting at them alot, so I tought he could shove JJ+, AQs.

      It is all wrong to call this shove against a player that tight, even when the table in general is very loose?

      PS: Im brazilian, so my english is not very good. Anyway im posting in here cuz im moving to Australia in one month and I want to improove my english a little.
  • 3 replies
    • edi9999
      edi9999
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      Joined: 03.11.2008 Posts: 1,387
      hi and welcome here.

      I'm normally folding vs a 3 b of a tight player with QQ.

      I think i had called cause you don't have the implied odds and are maybe behind.
    • mrauter
      mrauter
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.03.2010 Posts: 200
      Thanks for the reply Edy999.

      Looking at his stats now, i see he would be calling almost always with JJ or AQ in the button, so no value 4-betting with QQ.
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
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      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,


      Considering it's HJvsBU and villain seems to have a sorta wide 3-betting range for a 16/10 I don't really mind the 4-bet/calloff, he's probably 3-betting light sometimes so he'll just 3-bet/fold a bunch of hands, which gives you money instantly. Now with only 165 hands and a little more than 100bb effective it's hard to say whether it wins you enough dead money to warrant you going broke against what is undoubtedly a value range like KK+, but I don't think it's awful by any means unless his 7% 3-bet is a just a statistical fluke.

      In general you should heed edi9999's advice and play QQ relatively slowly against tight players, as they won't go broke with AK/QQ themselves in most situations so when you go broke preflop you'll run into KK+ very often.


      Hope it helps.