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[NL2-NL10] set of Jacks against 2 players in Rush NL10 SH

    • Gugi19
      Joined: 08.01.2010 Posts: 325
      Hand converted with online hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BB (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J.
      MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.35, CO calls $0.35, BU calls $0.35, SB folds, Hero raises to $2.00, MP3 calls $1.65, CO calls $1.65, BU folds.

      Flop: ($6.4) 5, J, 6 (3 players)
      Hero bets $4.20, MP3 calls $4.20, CO calls $4.20.

      Turn: ($19) 7 (3 players)
      Hero bets $3.87, MP3 raises to $9.27(All-In), CO calls $7.66.

      River: ($39.8) 3 (3 players)

      Final Pot: $39.8.

      Results follow:

      MP3 shows three of a kind, sixs(6s 6c).
      Hero shows three of a kind, jacks(Jc Jd).
      CO shows a flush, king high(Th Kh).

      CO wins with a flush, king high(Th Kh).

      MP: 46/35/57
      CO: 36/0/47

      Is 3-bet ok in this spot?
      Sholud I jam on the flop or bet less and then jam turn?
      Was this size bet on flop mistake because they are committed to my jam on turn?
  • 1 reply
    • MaestroOfZerg
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510

      3-betting preflop is perfectly fine, both players look like they can easily end up calling your 3-bet with hands way worse than JJ.

      As far as postflop is concerned the stacks are awkward no matter how much you bet on the flop unless you jam it in, but this is usually the best way to scare people off marginal stuff, so we'd want to avoid that in general. Against those guys it might actually be fine because whatever they have on this flop they'll probably make the same play against a 2/3 bet and a shove regardless. I don't think it makes much of a difference overall, just do whatever you feel comfortable with as long as you're aware of the considerations that went into it.

      You can't make a mistake by committing them to calling you on the turn when you have top set, it's actually a good thing. The more committed they feel the less they'll be able to lay down marginally strong hands, the more money we make. You just have to make sure your overall line as the best chance of getting called down since it'll be over on the turn no matter what. IF you actually had to bet the river to get all the money in things might change, because people can't call the river once their draws busted, so you get bonus points in that spot for making bigger bets on previous streets where those hands have still a reason to call.

      Hope it helps.