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[NL20-NL50] NL 25 FR, KQo 4bet steal called

    • oedipa
      oedipa
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      Joined: 27.07.2009 Posts: 127
      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      saw flop

      Button ($25)
      SB ($25) new villain at the table, unknown
      BB ($27.89)
      UTG ($28.70)
      MP1 ($27.23)
      MP2 ($5.80)
      Hero (CO) ($31.86)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, K
      3 folds, Hero bets $0.75, 1 fold, SB raises to $2.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6.25, SB calls $3.75

      Flop: ($12.75) 3, Q, 8 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($12.75) 5 (2 players)
      SB bets $10, Hero raises to $25.61 (All-In), SB calls $8.75 (All-In)

      River: ($50.25) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

      Total pot: $50.25 | Rake: $2.51

      Do you approve this play?
      I wanted to 4bet/fold but he called,
      I check behind on flop to induce bluffs? Are there some bluffs to be induced?
      I didn't think about this very much, but bluffs are all I beat, so should I call insted of raising or is fold better?
  • 4 replies
    • AninIII
      AninIII
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      Joined: 13.07.2008 Posts: 944
      Hi,

      first of all:
      I wouldn't 4-bet with KQo at all.
      Just call in position and play carefully even if you hit.
      If villain is tight, you can even fold easily preflop.
      As played: Chb flop for potcontrol is fine.
      When he bets near potsize on turn i fear that he has KK, AA, QQ, AQ or AKs quite often. So I'd shove too, but I wouldn't assume to be ahead very often.

      What did he have? AA?

      Best regards,
      Anin
    • oedipa
      oedipa
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      Joined: 27.07.2009 Posts: 127
      Hi Anin, nice comment on the hand :)
      I will post result after judge comments this.
      I was just implementing light 4-betting into my game, but I painfully discovered, that against unknown villains it is better to just fold or call IP :)
    • MiiWiin
      MiiWiin
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      Joined: 01.03.2007 Posts: 64,818
      I see no problem to 4-bet/fold KQo if you think a call is not a good alternative.

      But when you bluff-4-bet you need reads, against an unknown player its always hard stuff.

      As played I like bet/broke on the flop, this is no spot for bluff induce.
    • oedipa
      oedipa
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      Joined: 27.07.2009 Posts: 127
      as promised here is the (unimportant) result :)
      I hazpairI'mgonnasetmine villain showed 88 and won :)