[NL20-NL50] Over Pair facing Turn AI

    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
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      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $98.29
      CO:
      $62.29
      BU:
      $31.20
      SB (Hero):
      $49.50
      BB:
      $62.08


      Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A.
      3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1.00.

      Flop: ($3) 9, 6, 4 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.00, BB calls $2.00.

      Turn: ($7) 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $5.50, BB raises to $23.50, Hero raises to $46.00, BB calls $22.50.

      River: ($99) A (2 players)


      Final Pot: $99.

      Villain is 49/9/63 over 53 hands
      Villain has a wide range here.
      78,23 or set where I'm beaten.
      He can also have any pair + draw (flush or straight)

      Since he was pretty aggressive I shoved to his raise on the turn. Is it a good move? Is the board to heavy and he probably has hit?

      Thanks,
  • 6 replies
    • Alan883
      Alan883
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      Joined: 03.12.2008 Posts: 1,941
      Question for judges?

      Isn't recommended 4BB + addition BB for every limper open raise? So i suggest you you to bet more preflop.

      I am always betting on 4 BB preflop.


      Maybe 78 maybe 23.....i am always doing the same like you do. We cannot really just fold that.
    • MiiWiin
      MiiWiin
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      Joined: 01.03.2007 Posts: 64,649
      This villain is not the type of player who can bluff a lot.

      For me its a bet/fold on the turn, youre beat here.
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
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      Hi MiiWiin,

      Originally posted by MiiWiin
      This villain is not the type of player who can bluff a lot.

      Can you elaborate a bit? What makes you tell this?

      For me its a bet/fold on the turn, youre beat here.
      What do you expect Villain to have? The board is not that heavy here so basically overall what makes you fold your aces?

      Really appreciate your input here because I found it hard to fold aces here.
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
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      I wanted to quote you twice, so there is a question in your quote on the post above,

      Thanks
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
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      For you to take another look at the thread...
      Sorry not really awake this am
    • MiiWiin
      MiiWiin
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      After 53 hands you cannot say a lot about villains play, but you have the preflop stats 49/9.

      The seems to be stats from a loose-passive player, more then this rating we havent.

      Loose-passives players play a lot of hands and they can overplay time to time worse hands like toppairs or slowplayed overpairs, but rarely.

      Pure bluffs ar unusual. Its a "bad passive" player, call flop / raise turn is always strong.


      This flop allow not many draws, I cannot imagine that he calls hands like K:hJ and now starts semi-bluff.

      From time to time you maybe see here A9 or TT+, but mostly you run here into sets or other strong hands. Possible is also 87s (straight) or 65s, 54s (2pair).

      The pot is small on the turn, you need about 40% equity when you push all-in cause he will never ever raise/fold here (of course it cannot be your aim to bluff a better hand here...).

      And I dont think that you have 40% equity.


      In his range are the strong hands (Sets, straight, 2pair) and you can give him a few "traps" or overplayed hands, maybe A9s and KK (its unusual that he plays all the TT-KK hands this way, when he didnt raise preflop he calls down postflop.



      Board: 9s 6h 5h 4d
      Dead:

      Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
      Spieler 1: 31,970% 30,303% 3,333% 66,364% AsAh
      Spieler 2: 68,030% 66,364% 3,333% 30,303% KK+, 99, 44-66, A9s, 87s, 65s, 54s