[NL2-NL10] Straight and Flush draw vs Maniac

    • esimon
      esimon
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.05.2010 Posts: 12
      I think I'm posting this most as a stop-loss to myself, to stop chasing draws, but i'd like a second oppinion on the hand.

      MP1 is a maniac, pushing any two. Saw him bluff a guy from a straight one hand earlier.
      My question is: with that many outs, am I the only one that would chase the pot?

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $2.00
      BB:
      $0.37
      UTG2:
      $5.45
      MP1:
      $2.76
      MP2:
      $2.00
      MP3 (Hero):
      $3.48
      CO:
      $1.89
      BU:
      $2.00


      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, K.
      UTG2 calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, 4 folds, UTG2 calls $0.06, MP1 calls $0.06, MP2 calls $0.06.

      Flop: ($0.35) 6, 5, T (4 players)
      UTG2 checks, MP1 bets $0.70, MP2 folds, Hero calls $0.70, UTG2 calls $0.70.

      Turn: ($2.45) 9 (3 players)
      UTG2 checks, MP1 raises to $1.98, Hero calls $1.98, UTG2 folds.

      River: ($6.41) 9 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $6.41.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows a pair of nines(Q K).
      MP1 shows two pairs, nines and sixs(6 5).

      MP1 wins with two pairs, nines and sixs(6 5).
  • 2 replies
    • letmewinplz8
      letmewinplz8
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.05.2010 Posts: 439
      If MP1 is maniac then I would raise/broke on flop.

      As played fold turn - you don't get odds.
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,

      Originally posted by letmewinplz8
      If MP1 is maniac then I would raise/broke on flop.

      As played fold turn - you don't get odds.
      This mostly. It's hugely profitable if he ever c-bet/folds there (which he probably can unless you reckon him overbetting is rare enough that it means strength) and your hand is very rarely in bad shape. Depending on how UTG2 plays and given that you're somewhat deeper with him, you might want to make a normal raise or just shove depending on what you think will look the strongest to him.

      I don't think it's a terrible call on the turn tho provided he can actually bluff like that sometimes, your overcards might be good against him and you have a gutshot and a flushdraw along with that. Getting more than 2:1, with the chance of having highly volatile money move your way and build a deeper stack against guys like UTG2 that open-limped as well and look fishy enough, it's okay.


      Hope it helps.