QQ Preflop against nit

    • AleMantovani
      AleMantovani
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      I saw here at a quiz that if a nit re-raises the big blind and I'm after him with QQ the best decision would be folding. Do you guys agree with that?

      Preflop I would only be losing to KK and AA, so I thought about reraising and folding to a bet if the flop showed an ace or a king.
  • 10 replies
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
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      He's a nit for a reason!
    • noclaninator
      noclaninator
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      A nit reraising is QQ+. Nits are often hesitant to reraise JJ or AK. Even against the range of JJ+, AK your queens are slightly behind. Fold them; save headache.

      Even against TAGs; in a full ring game if a TAG raises from UTG and another TAG reraises then it is time to fold queens there too.
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      If you mean raising in a limped pot or first in I think that against a nit you can call IP with QQ and go from there. Hope for top set or reevaluate if you have overpair or worse. Of course, this only works with a deep enough stack and an aggressive opponent.

      If you mean 3betting it's an easy fold. But how can you think about 4betting a nit with anything less than AA??? Do you really think he is gonna call a 4bet and you can reevaluate on the flop?
    • conall88
      conall88
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      if 3bet freq <8% over 100+ hands I fold it no questions asked.

      if 3bet freq <10% over 20-30 hands I will fold until I have more information.

      in regards to 4betting a nit:

      3,290,592 games 2.180 secs 1,509,445 games/sec

      Board:
      Dead:

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 44.029% 38.63% 05.61% 1271024 184488.00 { KK+, AKs }
      Hand 1: 55.971% 50.62% 05.61% 1665840 184488.00 { KK+ }


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      hes obv gonna be inclined to flat 4bets with AKs, but regardless I don't see us folding KK very often. QQ is deffo a fold though.
    • sabo999
      sabo999
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      FOLD
      If he has AK/KK/AA ur crushed/flipping, best case scenario you have a flip - why flip with a nit ? Just steal off him all nite, and exploit the fish :D

      QQ may seem like a big hand, but agaisnt a nit, u can treat it like 22, you are crushed or flipping ! :)

      Sabo :club:
    • AleMantovani
      AleMantovani
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      Thanks for the replies guys, they'll improve my game.

      I've read a lot of articles and started playing a lot tighter, but still having trouble to fold preflop with TT+
    • iamblueandurmine
      iamblueandurmine
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      Drop it like its hot
    • sabo999
      sabo999
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      Originally posted by iamblueandurmine
      Drop it like its hot
      Only when the pimps in the cribb... :f_cool:
    • BCShad0w
      BCShad0w
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      Originally posted by iamblueandurmine
      Drop it like its hot
      I think we all as beginners see folding anything higher than JJ a problem... When you see enough games, your'll find it as easy as folding 72o =] =]... I have seen my fair share of QQ beat KA, however, I always feel I see A K come on the board more than any other card while at the table! [This'll probably average out, but you know what I mean, lol]

      /C
    • alexgeor
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      vs nits best case scenario its a coin flip since they want reraise with anything less than QQ and this is extremely rare. So normaly at the least you expect AK.

      Why flip? Fold. I dont like playing roulette with my money :D