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[NL20-NL50] NL 50, QQ, R - value bet or ch/c?

    • Anger86
      Anger86
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.08.2008 Posts: 511
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      CO:
      $132.85
      BU:
      $50.00
      SB:
      $50.00
      BB:
      $64.70
      MP2 (Hero):
      $70.75
      MP3:
      $51.50


      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q.
      Hero raises to $1.75, MP3 folds, CO calls $1.75, BU calls $1.75, 2 folds, BB folds.

      Flop: ($6) 6, 6, K (3 players)
      Hero bets $3.50, CO folds, BU calls $3.50.

      Turn: ($13) 4 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU checks.

      River: ($13) T (2 players)
      Hero bets $6.50, BU calls $6.50.


      Villains stats:
      Hands: 330
      VPIP/PFR: 30/20
      AF: 1.8


      I tried to get value from:
      77, 88, 99, JJ, who knows maybe AT, Ax.
      Would you ch/c instead?
  • 4 replies
    • Falber
      Falber
      Bronze
      Joined: 20.02.2009 Posts: 7,192
      why check/raise ? "77, 88, 99, JJ, who knows maybe AT, Ax." do not value bet and Kx call the check raise. and if he want to bluff he do it on turn.

      I bet 8 River, with your sizing you look like a fine value bet.
    • N0pr3s3n7
      N0pr3s3n7
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.05.2009 Posts: 1,296
      Originally posted by Falber
      why check/raise ? "77, 88, 99, JJ, who knows maybe AT, Ax." do not value bet and Kx call the check raise. and if he want to bluff he do it on turn.

      I bet 8 River, with your sizing you look like a fine value bet.
      I bet 0 river because most of the time he is behind the flop call from the BU as him holding KT+.He can truly hold 77-99 as i think he would 3bet JJ preflop with his position.Bu the only hands you beat is 77/88/99 so he is also super unlikely to be calling Ax there with the intention of floating on such a board.As i see he plays 30/20/1.8 he isn't going to call them that often.Check/fold river or call small bet.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      He should most of the times bet himself with Ax on the turn
      I think small river value bet is fine. he can easily lo you up with some kind of pp
    • alecsCQ
      alecsCQ
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.09.2009 Posts: 2,815
      i think ch/fold that flop is ok with QQ in 3 way pot, but if u make a bet u represent a king and they fold smaller pair, ch./call river is ok i dont see value in ur bet river he call with a weak king .