[NL2-NL10] set of 6 fold to AllIn on flop

    • Gandomyr
      Gandomyr
      Bronze
      Joined: 28.06.2010 Posts: 1
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $1.87
      SB:
      $2.00
      BB (Hero):
      $2.40
      MP1:
      $1.96
      MP2:
      $2.14
      MP3:
      $3.09
      CO:
      $1.98


      Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 6.
      MP1 raises to $0.08, 3 folds, BU calls $0.08, SB folds, Hero calls $0.06.

      Flop: ($0.25) 6, 8, 3 (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.16, MP1 calls $0.16, BU raises to $0.42, Hero raises to $0.90, MP1 folds, BU raises to $1.79, Hero folds, BU gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $1.31.

      Was it ok to fold? I thought that he may have pocket 8's. So I bet, he raised, I raised again, and then he raised me all in. If I would've been in his shoes, I would go AllIn only if I would have a nuts hand, the best thing. In this case, pocket 8's. Ok, so there was only one hand that could've got me beat, but that All In kinda scared me. I usually don't go AllIn, unless I know my hand can't be beat. Not having the top set on the flop made me fold. If I would've had the pocket 8's instead, I wouldn't have hesitated and went AllIn without a doubt.
  • 3 replies
    • Duudalinja
      Duudalinja
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.12.2009 Posts: 1,030
      No, I wouldn't fold here, going AI all day long. He may play overpair like this and you have 2nd nuts here, you made 3bet and have already half stack invested - that's just wrong play if you fold.
      It seems you are way too conservative with shoving on NL2. You can't just put him on 88, because there are only 3 combos of it, that's way too narrow. Why do you think he wouldn't play 99-AA like this? Or at least QQ-AA? And totally that's enough for you to be ahead most of the time, not even mentioning situations where he may do that with overcards and/or FD - more better for you.
      I think read some strategy articles about ranges and stuff, you have wrong understanding about situations where you should, could and must go AI.
      Just my humble opinion. :)
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Calling for set value and folding against 1 opponent on a dry board is a big mistake! Shove it! AA, KK, QQ would play the same imo... AKs, AQs, a whole bunch of hands. You crush his range by far. You made a big mistake here!
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Duudalinja
      No, I wouldn't fold here, going AI all day long. He may play overpair like this and you have 2nd nuts here, you made 3bet and have already half stack invested - that's just wrong play if you fold.
      It seems you are way too conservative with shoving on NL2. You can't just put him on 88, because there are only 3 combos of it, that's way too narrow. Why do you think he wouldn't play 99-AA like this? Or at least QQ-AA? And totally that's enough for you to be ahead most of the time, not even mentioning situations where he may do that with overcards and/or FD - more better for you.
      I think read some strategy articles about ranges and stuff, you have wrong understanding about situations where you should, could and must go AI.
      Just my humble opinion. :)
      +1
      easy all-in. he would shove there aces all day long (if he slowplay it pf) and if he happens to have 33 then you also beat that. And I think he also can play flushdraws that way