KJo on the button: isolate/call/fold to loose passive limpers?

    • benguela
      Joined: 25.06.2009 Posts: 22
      [Edit]My apologies, I realise I should have posted this in Hand Evaluations BSS until 0.05/0.10 but I don't know how to move it.

      I'm on the button with KJo and 2 loose passive players limp ahead of me.

      I'm confident I can take these guys on because they are limping with a very wide range of hands.

      I was seriously tempted to raise to isolate one of these players. However the starting hands chart says fold, so I folded.

      They went to showdown and they had A7s and 76o.

      I entered the following hand ranges in equilator:
      suited connectors
      offsuit connectors

      which resulted in
      KJo: 70%
      villian: 29%

      Therefor I should have raised and calling is incorrect?

      Known players:

      0.01/0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.87 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with K:club: , J:spade:
      UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, 3 folds, SB calls $0.01, BB checks.

      Flop: ($0.08) T:club: , Q:club: , Q:diamond: (4 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks.

      Turn: ($0.08) A:club: (4 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks.

      River: ($0.08) 8:spade: (4 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks.

      Final Pot: $0.08

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      MP2 shows a pair of queens (7h 6c)
      BB shows a pair of queens (9s 4s)
      UTG shows two-pair, aces and queens (Ad 7d)
      SB shows two-pair, queens and eights (8d 6s)

      UTG wins with two-pair, aces and queens (Ad 7d)
  • 3 replies
    • h0m1e
      Joined: 28.03.2010 Posts: 223
      starting hands chart is just a guide, not a rule.Therefore you should definitely isolate with KJ.
    • joecar
      Joined: 09.04.2008 Posts: 347
      isolate, cbet, fold against resistance
    • Bierbaer
      Joined: 27.05.2005 Posts: 7,989
      Originally posted by joecar
      isolate, if HU cbet, fold against resistance
      FYP and +1.

      I'd also raise this on if I am on the BU or in the CO, but I think you can fold if your position is any worse.
      Once you're 3way+ on the flop I generally back off from cbetting, but HU most of the time I do cbets because it's usually +EV (but it still depends on the opponent and the board structure!).