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[NL20-NL50] nl50 - A5s tp+fd flop vs eff 70bb

    • Tim64
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($37.30)
      BB ($28.95)
      UTG ($136)
      Hero ($90.75)
      CO ($56.15)
      BTN ($45.95)

      Dealt to Hero A:diamond: 5:diamond:

      fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, fold, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1

      FLOP ($4.50) 9:diamond: A:club: 3:diamond:

      SB bets $4.50, BB folds, Hero raises to $18, SB calls $13.50

      TURN ($40.50) 9:diamond: A:club: 3:diamond: 4:heart:

      SB bets $17.80 (AI), Hero calls $17.80

      RIVER ($76.10) 9:diamond: A:club: 3:diamond: 4:heart: 4:diamond:

      SB is 35/12, 17 hands, AF 5; BB is 36/0, 23 hands.
      We hit the virtual nuts on the flop, but how to play vs villain donk? if possible we would like to get AI to avoid turn decisions but my feeling was that we can't really make a 70bb shove on the flop?
      On the turn, we have an easy odds call against any Ax.
  • 2 replies
    • VzLOM
      Joined: 23.12.2007 Posts: 3,671
      1st thoughts is like "we have monster - Ax tp + nut fd, lets get it in!!" but
      i see 2 questions here:
      1)could he be donk\folding higher Axes ( i doubt + theres not much of em while he ch-calling alot medium and raising AQ+ pf)
      2)does he have much lower fd's that he would donk and stack off here. Also doubt- not much combos cos he was calling op vs steal and there will not be hand like 67s. Plus draws usually not donking pot in Ax brd.

      So ...actuallly i dont see much sense in raising, esp when u are 70bb deep. I just calldown, catching his bluffs, my outs, lower FDs
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      you´re not folding your hand whatever happens
      So is it better to get all-in on the flop where you have the best equity about all of his range or wait to the turn
      I think you can also wait to the turn, since he is sometimes bluffing and you catch extra value on the turn by letting him hand himself
      You can also raise flop and play as you did. Maybe he´d fold then better Ax hand