[NL20-NL50] JJ set 4 str board

    • VzLOM
      VzLOM
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      20\16\4.2\fold @ cbet 56\turn bet vs check 46%\river af 3

      Does it make any sense in beting turn? what to do vs raise? decided to catch some floats. River bet\fold after ch turn?

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      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($42)
      BB ($50.25)
      Hero ($58)
      CO ($76.15)
      BTN ($52.50)

      Dealt to Hero J:diamond: J:club:

      Hero raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, fold, fold, fold

      FLOP ($4.25) Q:club: A:diamond: J:heart:

      Hero bets $3, CO calls $3

      TURN ($10.25) Q:club: A:diamond: J:heart: K:club:

      Hero checks, CO checks

      RIVER ($10.25) Q:club: A:diamond: J:heart: K:club: 8:spade:

      Hero bets $8.50, CO raises to $20 Hero ?
  • 6 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      I think you´re not checking T very often but at the same time don´t expect players to bluffraise river, so i think b/f river is fine
    • VzLOM
      VzLOM
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      I think you´re not checking T very often but at the same time don´t expect players to bluffraise river

      dont get that. I was betting for value.
    • mrxLT
      mrxLT
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      I think he means on the turn you not gonna check T (str8) if villain knows that, he might bluff raise you on the river. Right?
    • VzLOM
      VzLOM
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      ah now i see, thx.
      But i think he's not checking T either ip, so he cant rep much?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by VzLOM
      ah now i see, thx.
      But i think he's not checking T either ip, so he cant rep much?
      well some players very often check turn back with straight since they afraid you´re going to c/f turn and then raise river.
      So I think b/f river is better unless player is really good and can turn his two pair into bluff. But just most players doesn´t really bluffraise never river, against them it is b/f
    • Bierbaer
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      I also like the way you played it.
      I don't think betting the turn makes too much sense because he'll just fold all worse hands.

      On the river you could bet smaller to make sure he calls 2pairs, $6.5 would be sufficient imo.
      Once he raises I'd just fold, starting with a level-war in this spot will lead to suboptimal decisions imo.
      I wouldn't expect a random player on NL50 to think that far and actually go for turning his 2pair into a bluff, 95% of them aren't even thinking about their ability to raise the river, they'll just call or fold.