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[NL2-NL10] NL 10 Quad not getting enough value

    • yeahyoung0312
      Joined: 16.12.2009 Posts: 340
      Hand converted with online hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BB (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7.
      MP2 raises to $0.30, MP3 calls $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.20.

      Flop: ($0.95) 7, 7, 9 (3 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80, MP2 folds.

      Turn: ($2.55) Q (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 bets $1.80, Hero calls $1.80.

      River: ($6.15) Q (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 checks.

      Final Pot: $6.15.
      Results follow:

      MP3 shows two pairs, kings and queens(K K).
      Hero shows four of a kind, sevens(7 7).

      Hero wins with four of a kind, sevens(7 7).

      Dream flop, but overall I think I made the common mistake of over slow-playing. When I saw the Ks I was pissed.

      I should have definitely raised the turn, if not the flop. I did know the importance of assuming opponent had a big hand when holding the nuts, but still...

      River card killed the action. I just hoped villain had a Q and checked.
  • 1 reply
    • MaestroOfZerg
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510

      Bad spot even tho you have the mortal nuts, as your line will look insanely strong to any decent player as soon as you raise anywhere in the hand, it's even harder for us to comment on it without reads on your opponents. Calling the flop is fine since MP2 behind could still stay in the hand, I'd say most of the time you should just raise the turn regardless of how strong it looks and just pray villain is an idiot.

      As played on the river there isn't much of a reason for a guy who nearly potted the flop to have Qx on that turn so really you shouldn't count on him betting that river. If he does have Qx he'll shove over your donkbet anyway so you lose nothing by leading out somewhat small to get calls from anything worse than Qx that will usually be too scared by the double paired board to bet again. I'd go for $3.5 to make sure they get curious.

      Hope it helps.