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[NL20-NL50] QQ shove

    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $14.56
      BB:
      $8.90
      MP3 (Hero):
      $26.61
      CO:
      $23.89
      BU:
      $19.70


      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q.
      Hero raises to $0.80, CO raises to $2.60, 3 folds, Hero raises to $8.00, CO raises to $23.89, Hero calls $15.89.

      Flop: ($48.08) J, 6, T (2 players)


      Turn: ($48.08) T (2 players)


      River: ($48.08) 5 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $48.08.

      Ok this one just for you to tell me that I'm stupid. Go on feel free.

      Villain is VP:24/PR:22/AFq:52 over 178 hands and ofc I didnt check his full stats before shoving but here it is i.e F3B:86% and 3B:7%
  • 7 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      very standard 4-bet spot and ofcourse calling shove
      I think players would get there all-in as light as TT+/AK
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      I dont think that a guy that has a Fold to 3 Bet stat of 86% would 5 Bet shove with TT+/AK. Looks more like QQ+ to me. The question is after my 4 Bet can/should i fold to his 5 Bet shove?
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      Forgot to tick the box for you to have a look at it again
    • TetraQuark
      TetraQuark
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.05.2008 Posts: 1,521
      Hi!

      178hands is way to small samplesize to be accurate, that is first.
      Second if you put him on a JJ+ range you have round 40% eq u need only 33% for the call. If u add AK to his range u got round 50%.
      You are behind QQ+ range, but must take into consideration your image behind table and that he has position all in all widening his range.

      Hope it helps.
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      wow the equilator is a Revolution for me!!
      ok you are right, didnt realise that I had 40% vs QQ+/AK which is fair to put him on.
      So ofc call the shove :)

      Cool! Thanks
    • Shevtshenko
      Shevtshenko
      Black
      Joined: 06.12.2009 Posts: 4,237
      Bad 4bet size imo. If you 4bet to 3x oop, you can't 4bet bluff ever.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Gregor86
      Hi!

      178hands is way to small samplesize to be accurate, that is first.
      Second if you put him on a JJ+ range you have round 40% eq u need only 33% for the call. If u add AK to his range u got round 50%.
      You are behind QQ+ range, but must take into consideration your image behind table and that he has position all in all widening his range.

      Hope it helps.
      +1
      you can´t really 4-bet QQ and then fold to shove