[NL20-NL50] fold KK preflop

    • i5bet72o
      i5bet72o
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.06.2010 Posts: 1,615
      Full Tilt - $0.50 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      MP+1: $72.80
      LP: $43.55
      CO: $9.65
      BTN: $94.40
      SB: $57.00
      BB: $17.30
      UTG: $85.40
      UTG+1: $23.50
      Hero (MP): $61.15

      SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has K:heart: K:spade:

      UTG raises to $2.00, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, fold, LP calls $6.00, fold, fold, SB raises to $57.00 and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero raises to $61.15 and is all-in, fold

      Flop: ($122.50, 2 players) 4:spade: 8:club: 6:spade:

      Turn: ($122.50, 2 players) 7:diamond:

      River: ($122.50, 2 players) 7:club:

      SB shows A:club: A:heart: (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)
      Hero shows K:heart: K:spade: (Two Pair, Kings and Sevens)
      SB wins $119.50

      Villian has tight reg stats so i think he has KK+ alot here so can i fold
  • 6 replies
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
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      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      What are his stats?
    • falcone1983
      falcone1983
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      Joined: 17.05.2009 Posts: 5,420
      Flat pre, as played pretty easy fold. Nobody with non-fishy stats is crazy enough to do this with AK.
    • NeilSimpson
      NeilSimpson
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      Joined: 14.06.2010 Posts: 123
      I dont think you should be folding in this spot ever its just not profitable to start double guessing yourself with KK just get them in! even a pretty tight player pushes qq aa and ak in this spot, 2 of which you crush. depending on the table aswell he could be squeezing but i suppose it depends on his stats. your a bigger man than me if you can fold KK to a 4 bet shove pre!
    • Joenaes
      Joenaes
      Black
      Joined: 18.07.2008 Posts: 4,137
      Originally posted by NeilSimpson
      I dont think you should be folding in this spot ever its just not profitable to start double guessing yourself with KK just get them in! even a pretty tight player pushes qq aa and ak in this spot, 2 of which you crush. depending on the table aswell he could be squeezing but i suppose it depends on his stats. your a bigger man than me if you can fold KK to a 4 bet shove pre!
      I'm not a tight player and I dont push QQ/AK in this spot
    • ZhiCheng
      ZhiCheng
      Gold
      Joined: 04.10.2008 Posts: 2,294
      Originally posted by NeilSimpson
      I dont think you should be folding in this spot ever its just not profitable to start double guessing yourself with KK just get them in! even a pretty tight player pushes qq aa and ak in this spot, 2 of which you crush. depending on the table aswell he could be squeezing but i suppose it depends on his stats. your a bigger man than me if you can fold KK to a 4 bet shove pre!
      Lets not forget we r talking abt rush.

      Sucks a lot, but yeah, reg will never have anything else here. Best case scenario, he sucks out on u KK vs KK
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      you´re not deep enough to fold there KK and if you don´t want to play against unknowns you can always buy holdem manager which can display stats even at rush tables
      I think you also see enough times AK or QQ to make call profitable