man, i dunno

    • joeldowey123
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      ok to some guys this may not seem like a lot of money, and i guess in real terms its not but tonight ive lost $70 (7BI's) and i know that people can lose more than that in a downswing.......but i just feel like i cant get going

      From the $50 i started with (not the starting capital from here thats long gone lol) i managed to get it to 104 tonight, after about 2 weeks of rollercoasting between 30 and 70 dollars.

      Im thinking, "yeah this is it, ive started to apply what ive learnt and its coming good" and then BAM most of its gone!

      I dont want to give up, I've ordered 'The Poker Mindset' off amazon and will arrive shortly. I want to turn my poker playing into something worth while and to making a decent profit from it, and hopefully some day in the future it will be my source of income.

      I dunno what im looking for from this post i guess i just wanted to rant a bit, sorry its so long!

      I do play live poker sometimes and generally come away from the table in the black, but here i am from there are no casinos (Belfast, Northern Ireland) well, there is one but its just tournaments and quite expensive ones really and its quite far away!

      I do sometimes tilt,ill admit that, but i dont feel that i have this evening! there has been some unlucky hands, set over set, TPTK vs Passive overpair etc but maybe there has been some bad play also.

      As said before i dont want to give up, i want to succeed at this, even if it is 2bb/100hands it would be bettre than the up 200bb one day down 300 the next up 350bb etc etc

      any advice, or information, or just good luck messages would be very much appreciated!

      Joel
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    • MrPavlos
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      my advice is to stop playin till the poker mindset arrives,read it 1-2 times,embrace the points of the book,and then start owning souls
    • NightFrostaSS
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      Wtf is with the obsession about "The Poker Mindset" on these forums? I did read it ant thought it's meh
    • joeldowey123
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      Well I bought it just because it was recommended! I also want to buy sklanskys theory of poker!

      Yeah I'm no playing for a couple days and I'll re read some of the articles here!

      I feel like I can be a winning player I just can't get it going properly yet! I obviously have a couple leaks and was thinking of getting some coaching maybe on next payday!
    • onepark
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      you had 104 and you play $10BI?

      maybe u r not following BRM??

      i have 10-20BI downswing ALL THE TIME...

      Im still playing all thanks to bankroll management..

      even it hurts soo much dropping down again but still if u don follow bankroll management you will end up losing all soon or later :)
    • NeilSimpson
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      stick at it.......only way to learn is to do.....i think you know where your going wrong but you cant stop yourself....its all in the head!keep it goin, keep readin and playin!
    • MrPavlos
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      Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
      Wtf is with the obsession about "The Poker Mindset" on these forums? I did read it ant thought it's meh
      it's not an obsession man,it's a very nice book and if u manage to apply the stuff u read there,but really apply it,then u wont have much problems at least beating micro limits.
    • Schnitzelfisch
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      Start following BRM if you don't want to go broke (yes, you WILL go broke very soon if you won't). And heh, 7BI isn't a downswing. A downswing is losing constantly over at least about 10k hands, that's probably like 50BI...
    • joeldowey123
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      thanks for all the replies guy i really appreciate it!

      I think that if i were to follow BRM with say $100, i think that playing at NL4 is pointless as people play like complete maniacs/fish and its only at the proper stakes that proper play is seen

      maybe thats just me talking, i dunno! i mean, im sure the better players on this forum didnt start at NL2, they prob started at NL25 or something, where the advice in these articles can be applied properly!

      If im wrong please tell me! Im not so proud that i cant go down a limit! If it needs done then im happy to do it if it will improve my game and seal up leaks!

      I just think that If i sat down with 100bb that equates to $4 then i wouldnt respect it as much and play stupidly, where at at NL10, I dont shove my $10 as easily, ill play more sensibly!
    • Schnitzelfisch
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      1. Get your ego out of the poker or you'll never be a winning player.

      2. You can just deposit $5k and start with NL100, but expect to get raped as players there are most likely better than you.

      3. You're NOT better/worth more than people who play NL4. At least they follow BRM!

      4. Most of our coaches started at low stakes, just read their blogs.

      5. You don't want to play vs fish? Who do you think we make money from? Regulars? You're wrong. The whole point of poker is to play vs fish to be able to beat the rake. With a tiny edge you might have against a table full of regs, you'll be losing to rake. Stupid moves from fish are +EV for you, be happy to play them.

      6. STICK TO BRM. Either play NL4 or deposit your own money and play higher limits. What you're doing right now is gambling, not playing poker.

      7. Read the Poker mindset. You really need to.
    • joeldowey123
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      Ok wow! That's a pretty big hit down Ti earth that I probably needed thanks Primzi!! Very valid points made there!
    • Schnitzelfisch
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      I'm sorry if I was a bit harsh, but this is usually the most efficient reality check, everything we write here is for your own good ;) .

      Primzi
    • joeldowey123
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      Originally posted by Primzi
      I'm sorry if I was a bit harsh, but this is usually the most efficient reality check, everything we write here is for your own good ;) .

      Primzi
      Primzi, to be honest, it was proabably needed man! so thank you!
    • pogodon
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      Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
      Wtf is with the obsession about "The Poker Mindset" on these forums? I did read it ant thought it's meh
      everybody thinking like a book can turn you into a pro.. the best pro's in the world never read a book
    • MrPavlos
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      Originally posted by pogodon
      Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
      Wtf is with the obsession about "The Poker Mindset" on these forums? I did read it ant thought it's meh
      everybody thinking like a book can turn you into a pro.. the best pro's in the world never read a book
      no book can do nothing to anybody bro,if u understand what's that book about,u will make 1 step forward on a long long road,that's all.
    • Schnitzelfisch
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      Originally posted by pogodon
      Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
      Wtf is with the obsession about "The Poker Mindset" on these forums? I did read it ant thought it's meh
      everybody thinking like a book can turn you into a pro..
      Noone said that a book can turn you into a pro. But it can greatly improve your psychology/attitude to poker if you follow it's advice.


      the best pro's in the world never read a book
      You're very very wrong there, mate ;) .
    • royalbulet
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      I discovered , that by reading the articles here on poker phsycology , i actually started enjoying the game i play. I was verry angry all the time. but now i am going through a downswing lost like 20BI-30BI but i didnt get upset , i got more motivated to win , and start making some money.

      I thought poker psihcology was a big bunch of bull , but discored it can actually help ALOT !

      So my thanks to all the article writers ,

      Regards,
      Bulet
    • onepark
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      lol maybe i should read those articles
      lol!

      i go tilt very easily due to my short temper ;(