[NL2-NL10] NL400 A8o

    • Tampaloeres81
      Tampaloeres81
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.03.2009 Posts: 1,416
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $4(BB) Replayer
      SB ($334)
      BB ($171)
      UTG ($146)
      UTG+1 ($229)
      UTG+2 ($92)
      MP1 ($167)
      CO ($80.10)
      Hero ($95)

      Dealt to Hero A:heart: 8:club:

      UTG calls $4, fold, fold, MP1 calls $4, CO calls $4, Hero raises to $24, SB raises to $334 (AI), fold, fold, fold, fold, ??

      Hi,

      SB (jasons0147)
      19/18
      3bet 10%
      4bet 5.4%
      200 hands in my DB

      1xbb/100 over 1.2 million hands according to PTR :f_o:

      This guy kept 3betting/shoving me, I dont think he folded any raise of me :evil:
      I need 34% EQ here so he need to be shoving as wide as:
      12% 77+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KJo+

      I shoved because:
      a) getting tilted by the guy :f_biggrin:
      b) felt it was time to fight back and it should be close.

      But I dont believe he is shoving near THAT wide...

      Later on I managed a seat to his left so I could bully him back :f_cool:

      T.
  • 4 replies
    • greyboy
      greyboy
      Black
      Joined: 19.07.2006 Posts: 3,052
      I also do not think that his range is that wide.
      Also because the limpers have around 40bb ... and they could be trapping.

      I would recommend to iso raise smaller, and than having an even clearer fold.
    • Tampaloeres81
      Tampaloeres81
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.03.2009 Posts: 1,416
      Hi,

      Yes the 40xbb fish in the hand makes it indeed even less likely that his range is really wide.

      What I forgot to metion is that he re-stealed AI for 30xbb eff against my 2.5xbb steals...

      Do we steal even smaller then? And just wait for a decent hand to stack him?

      T.
    • greyboy
      greyboy
      Black
      Joined: 19.07.2006 Posts: 3,052
      IP: Yes we steal 2bb in that case.
      OOP: We tighten up our stealing range and raise 2,5bb.
      We do not want to get called with a weak hand and play OOP.

      And than wait for decent hands to call with ... yes ;)
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by greyboy
      I also do not think that his range is that wide.
      Also because the limpers have around 40bb ... and they could be trapping.

      I would recommend to iso raise smaller, and than having an even clearer fold.
      I agree with this statement because I think it is pretty clear the other spots he was 3bet/jamming against you involved other circumstances.

      I think he is also smart enough that he knows how to combat SSps. You should be looking at your own PFR at BU/SB concerning isolation range and then determining a kind of value range from HIS POV.

      Then stove that range against your A8o.