[NL20-NL50] NL50SH - 99 turn spot

    • knb22
      knb22
      Gold
      Joined: 29.04.2009 Posts: 212
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB)
      SB ($52.60)
      BB ($73.87)
      Hero ($73.70)
      UTG+1 ($69.50)
      CO ($52.50)
      BTN ($46.10)

      Dealt to Hero 9:spade: 9:club:

      Hero raises to $1.50, fold, CO calls $1.50, fold, fold, fold

      FLOP ($3.75) 6:diamond: 9:heart: J:spade:

      Hero bets $2.25, CO calls $2.25

      TURN ($8.25) 6:diamond: 9:heart: J:spade: 8:club:

      Hero bets $6, CO raises to $17, Hero calls $11

      RIVER ($42.25) 6:diamond: 9:heart: J:spade: 8:club: 2:heart:

      Hero checks, CO bets $24, Hero calls $24

      Villain is standard 20/16 reg over 300 hands, WTSD 16%. Turn aggression: 14(!)

      I guess this is a pretty standard line (at least for me) against this opponent in particular. But could we possibly take this line against a more passive opponent as well?
  • 4 replies
    • mrxLT
      mrxLT
      Silver
      Joined: 02.09.2008 Posts: 435
      Do you mean, he has mostly air on the turn and you get no value 3beting? If so, when you call raise on the turn, do you fold lets say overpairs on blank river? I mean does he ever continue bluffing on the river when you call turn? Imo you loose value not shiping turn. How played, why not cr river? You are behind against JJ and T7 only.
    • NeilSimpson
      NeilSimpson
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.06.2010 Posts: 123
      tough spot.....but most likely id be shipping it in on the turn.....he could possibly have some like q10s and the 8 has hit him on the turn...thats the only hand id be worried about here...jj he probly 3 bets pre...he could have some thing like j10s with top pair and OESD..66 is also a possibility and he could have been slow playing the flop...i think long run your losing value by not getting it in in this spot
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      once he is raising with two pair he is not really never shoving there, so instead of b/c turn and then c/c river I think very standard line would be shove turn
      Only reason to b/c turn and c/c river is if you think player is pure bluffing and would not call your turn shove
    • knb22
      knb22
      Gold
      Joined: 29.04.2009 Posts: 212
      Originally posted by knb22
      Villain is standard 20/16 reg over 300 hands, WTSD 16%. Turn aggression: 14(!)
      I definately see the point of shoving the turn, as only a few hands beats us. However, against this opponent in particular, I was not sure what line to take, as he is obv capable of bluffraising the turn.

      Originally posted by NeilSimpson
      i think long run your losing value by not getting it in in this spot
      I agree, but in this exact spot, I like this line.