[NL2-NL10] NL10:JJ on A flop

    • rubysilesia
      rubysilesia
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      Joined: 03.07.2007 Posts: 351
      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      Hero:
      $14,67
      BU:
      $5,61
      CO:
      $1,85
      SB:
      $1,90
      BB:
      $2

      0,05/0,10 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J:diamond: , J:spade:
      Hero raises to $0,35, CO folds, BU raises to $1,00, 2 folds, Hero calls $0,65.

      Flop: ($2,15) 5:diamond: , 6:heart: , A:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $1, Hero folds.

        Villain was loose player, cought me bluffing earlier, I decided not to cbet after his reraise.

      Final Pot: $3,15
  • 9 replies
    • Divsla
      Divsla
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2007 Posts: 43
      you make a misstake preflop by only calling, preflop you should decide to push or fold. every Q,K,A is now a scarecard for you. if you play for set value it's also a bad call.

      He plays only halve stack I would push preflop. enough hands you will beat preflop.

      as played: I would donkbet flop 1-1.2$ to represent an ace.

      was villain passive or aggresive ?

      passive villian is fold preflop, loose aggresive is allin preflop
    • rubysilesia
      rubysilesia
      Silver
      Joined: 03.07.2007 Posts: 351
      I played few hands with him all I can say is that he is loose and caught me bluffing once. I stacked him little later having AK, reraised his TT preflop and flopped straight over his T set (very lucky indeed).
    • Eclipt
      Eclipt
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      Joined: 11.05.2007 Posts: 755
      Tough situation.

      This small bet on flop stinks. Either he has monster (AA, AK, 55, 66), or is on bluff.
      I think that after your check on flop, he realized that flop missed you and took advantage of it. If he is loose, he may have Ax, high pockets, but also small pocket, or is on total bluff.

      2 options here:
      - fold
      - raise to $3

      I really don`t know what is the best choise.
    • Divsla
      Divsla
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      Joined: 02.01.2007 Posts: 43
      Originally posted by Eclipt

      2 options here:
      - fold
      - raise to $3

      I really don`t know what is the best choise.
      raising would be wrong, if he has an ace/KK/QQ, he pushes allin and you would need to call because of good odds, 1$ on and 10$ pot. costing you 4$.

      So it would be a fold.

      JJ is a big hand preflop 5-handed especially if your opponent is loose.
      Allin preflop. or Call preflop- Check/Raise Flop Allin on a low board is also good.

      Posting why you call/raise/fold on every street. Gives us some insight in your thoughts. I will post one of my hands later. with comments on every street to show and let you give some comments on my plays.
    • Eclipt
      Eclipt
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      Joined: 11.05.2007 Posts: 755
      Yep, I agree with you. Fold on flop.
    • Middelemiel
      Middelemiel
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      Joined: 10.04.2007 Posts: 19
      raising would be wrong, if he has an ace/KK/QQ, he pushes allin and you would need to call because of good odds, 1$ on and 10$ pot. costing you 4$.
      Thats a stupid argument. There's only 3 hands out of his whole range which have you completely beat preflop. He could be raising with even KJ, K10, 99, TT, 88, 77 etc. Just push, there's a big chance he'll call with a worse hand because he's shortstacked.

      The times that he has QQ/KK or AA , so be it. To his raising range you should just push preflop, don't call and get committed when there are overcards on the flop, just push when you're ahead of his range.

      //edit: Oops, that's exactly what you're saying... Sorry ! :D
    • rubysilesia
      rubysilesia
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      Joined: 03.07.2007 Posts: 351
      I played like 10 - 20 hands with this villain. I can't say what kind of player he is accurately. He could be just lucky preflop and I had false image. I don't like the idea of going AI preflop with JJ having played so little hands. The only worst hands that would call me would be AQ+ but the profit that I can get from them (almost a coinflip slight favorite) is not enough to cover the losses from QQ+ I think.
    • Divsla
      Divsla
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      Joined: 02.01.2007 Posts: 43
      No problem middelemiel, I'm glad that you think the same about this.
    • Divsla
      Divsla
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      Joined: 02.01.2007 Posts: 43
      Originally posted by rubysilesia
      I played like 10 - 20 hands with this villain. I can't say what kind of player he is accurately. He could be just lucky preflop and I had false image. I don't like the idea of going AI preflop with JJ having played so little hands. The only worst hands that would call me would be AQ+ but the profit that I can get from them (almost a coinflip slight favorite) is not enough to cover the losses from QQ+ I think.
      there are also enough hands that will fold. and you show him he cant play around with you.