[NL20-NL50] nl50: TPTK overplayed imo

    • i5bet72o
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      Full Tilt - $0.50 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      SB: $67.25
      BB: $53.30
      UTG: $45.75
      UTG+1: $40.20
      MP: $77.65
      Hero (MP+1): $50.00
      LP: $45.55
      CO: $24.45
      BTN: $50.00

      SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has A:club: K:heart:

      UTG calls $0.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $1.50

      Flop: ($4.75, 2 players) 3:club: A:diamond: T:spade:
      UTG checks, Hero bets $2.50, UTG raises to $7.00, Hero calls $4.50

      Turn: ($18.75, 2 players) 8:diamond:
      UTG bets $7.00, Hero calls $7.00

      River: ($32.75, 2 players) 7:club:
      UTG bets $12.50, Hero raises to $34.00 and is all-in, UTG calls $17.25 and is all-in

      Hero shows A:club: K:heart: (One Pair, Aces)
      UTG shows T:heart: T:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Tens)
      UTG wins $89.25
  • 8 replies
    • Dublimax
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      Limp/Call pre with C/R on the flop, you have to think that you might be up against set. I think you can already fold on the turn.
      River is easy fold ofc but you know it.
    • Shevtshenko
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      I couldn't fold the flop without reads. He's repping just 33. On turn you get great odds, so couldn't fold either. On river you're again given good odds, so it would be a call for me. Even though, I'd expect to be beat superoften. But obviously you've got just a bluffcatcher on river so absolutely no reason to turn your hand into a pure bluff and shove. Tiltplay imo.

      With reads, fold flop.
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
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      Originally posted by Shevtshenko
      I couldn't fold the flop without reads. He's repping just 33. On turn you get great odds, so couldn't fold either. On river you're again given good odds, so it would be a call for me
      odds for what? I think villain is playing for value here.
    • mrxLT
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      Originally posted by Dublimax
      Originally posted by Shevtshenko
      I couldn't fold the flop without reads. He's repping just 33. On turn you get great odds, so couldn't fold either. On river you're again given good odds, so it would be a call for me
      odds for what? I think villain is playing for value here.
      On the river you have to pay 12,50 to win 45,25. You need to win rougly 1 showdown out of 5 to be breakeven. That what he means by "good odds".
    • Dublimax
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      Villain is C/R flop and barreling turn and river.
      I think we are beat way more than 4/5 in this spot. Not speaking on the turn
      Thats why I dont think call the river (maybe not even the turn) is a good option. To me villain is playing for smallish value there.
    • mrxLT
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      Yes indeed, when you got cr'ed on AT3r it smells like trouble. But villain is not full-stacked, he limp-called, hes betting small. I think theres is a small chance that we will see AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ, 54 once in a while and given the pot odds we have to call.
    • Shevtshenko
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      Originally posted by mrxLT
      Yes indeed, when you got cr'ed on AT3r it smells like trouble. But villain is not full-stacked, he limp-called, hes betting small. I think theres is a small chance that we will see AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ, 54 once in a while and given the pot odds we have to call.
      And A2s-A6s. Without stats and reads don't see a way to fold.
    • Kaitz20
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      I´d likely just b/f flop, since don´t really see players c/r bluffs or worse hands too often on ATx board
      Once you called flop, calldown is fine, don´t really see why you´re shoving river. he doesn´t have there AQ too often and he won´t fold two pair+