[NL20-NL50] blinds battle

    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
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      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)

      Known players:
      CO:
      $98.71
      BU (Hero):
      $50.00
      SB:
      $50.00
      BB:
      $52.41


      Preflop: Hero is BU with A, Q.
      CO folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB raises to $5.00, BB folds, Hero raises to $15.50, SB raises to $50.25, Hero calls $34.50.

      Flop: ($100.5) 7, J, 5 (2 players)


      Turn: ($100.5) J (2 players)


      River: ($100.5) T (2 players)


      Final Pot: $100.5.

      Villain is VP:23/PR:18/AFq:59/3B:11% over 20,000 hands

      I 4B because of his 11% 3B.
      Once he shoved what should I do?
      Vs AK/JJ+ I have 34% so I think I'm ok here calling because I have to call 35 for a 65$ pot.
  • 5 replies
    • AninIII
      AninIII
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      Joined: 13.07.2008 Posts: 944
      Hi,

      AQs is too strong to 4-bet/fold and too weak to 4-bet/call.
      => Call 3-bet ip imo with good playability.
      Once you 4-bet so big you are commited as you stated but keep in mind that you are nearly always a big dog, if not crushed by AA...
      I'd 4-bet it to 12-12,5$ to keep my bluffs cheaper.

      What did he have? AK?

      Best regards,
      Anin
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
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      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      Hi Anin,

      Call 3B IP is an option but against villain that 3B light I think the 4B is the best option.
      My 4B size was probably not the best indeed.
      Do you 4B to 12.5 to fold to a shove?
    • AninIII
      AninIII
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      Joined: 13.07.2008 Posts: 944
      As I already stated I don't want to 4-bet/fold. (Sometimes I push AQs for myself, but calling a shove is a different thing.)
      So I wouldn't 4-bet in the first place. But 12,50$ seems good for a 4-bet with bluffs as well as with AK, JJ+.
      I know your problem: You just saw his high 3-bet value and 4-bet with a decent hand, but when he shoves you are a dog nearly always.
      So you have to think about this BEFORE you raise. You have to have a plan i your mind what you do if villain does this or that...

      Hope it helps.

      P.S.: Btw., it's not a blind battle.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I think raise/call pf is fine, but you can always 4-bet and get all-in
      If he is really aggressive he should shove there quite wide range thinking you´re 4-bet bluffing enough times to make shove profitable
      So instead of putting in 30% of your stack I like making 12.5$ 4-bet which says (I´m bluffing, please shove your AT)
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
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      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      Ok I undertsand your points guys.

      I have to think about my plan before - I try to but on this one I have to say I didn't and as you said I saw his 3B value and just 4B wo really thinking.

      Cool, thanks for the help.

      @ Anin : he had AK
      @ Anin for the PS. Indeed not a blind battle. you are not missing anything! :evil: Thx