[NL20-NL50] 55 sucks on nl50 stars

    • supeyrio
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      could i have played them better? or i played them poorly?

      1)Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Poker Stars
      Hero ($52.50)
      BB ($53.55)
      UTG ($57.05)
      UTG+1 ($36.20)
      UTG+2 ($72.90)
      MP1 ($51.25)
      CO ($28.25)
      BTN ($57.80)

      Dealt to Hero 5:club: 5:heart:

      fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to $2, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.75, fold

      FLOP ($4.50) 2:club: 5:diamond: 7:spade:

      Hero bets $3, UTG+2 raises to $9, Hero calls $6

      TURN ($22.50) 2:club: 5:diamond: 7:spade: A:diamond:

      Hero checks, UTG+2 checks

      RIVER ($22.50) 2:club: 5:diamond: 7:spade: A:diamond: K:heart:

      Hero bets $18, UTG+2 raises to $57, Hero calls $23.50 (AI)

      Hero shows 5:club: 5:heart:
      (Pre 20%, Flop 91.1%, Turn 95.5%)

      UTG+2 shows K:diamond: K:spade:
      (Pre 80%, Flop 8.9%, Turn 4.5%)

      UTG+2 wins $102

      2)Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($50)
      BB ($53.50)
      UTG ($51.50)
      UTG+1 ($25)
      UTG+2 ($92.10)
      Hero ($68.05)
      CO ($50)
      BTN ($56)

      Dealt to Hero 5:club: 5:diamond:

      UTG raises to $1.75, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.75, fold, fold, fold, fold

      FLOP ($4.25) 4:diamond: 4:heart: 5:spade:

      UTG bets $2.95, Hero raises to $6, UTG calls $3.05

      TURN ($16.25) 4:diamond: 4:heart: 5:spade: J:club:

      UTG checks, Hero bets $10, UTG calls $10

      RIVER ($36.25) 4:diamond: 4:heart: 5:spade: J:club: K:club:

      UTG checks, Hero bets $50.30 (AI), UTG calls $33.75 (AI)

      Hero shows 5:club: 5:diamond:
      (Pre 19%, Flop 91.3%, Turn 2.3%)

      UTG shows J:heart: J:diamond:
      (Pre 81%, Flop 8.7%, Turn 97.7%)

      UTG wins $100
  • 8 replies
    • TetraQuark
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      Hi!

      1st hand: Donking on flop is an cool option, but you were c/r turn right(because of draw that came up)? Him checking turn means he either got scared of A or just spiked a set, yeah sucks, river is just a cooler. Don`t see how you can get away from that hand.

      2nd hand: Cooler
    • supeyrio
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      Originally posted by Gregor86
      Hi!

      1st hand: Donking on flop is an cool option, but you were c/r turn right(because of draw that came up)? Him checking turn means he either got scared of A or just spiked a set, yeah sucks, river is just a cooler. Don`t see how you can get away from that hand.

      2nd hand: Cooler
      hi greg, thanks for our input

      i donked because villian is quite aggro and will raise with any AK AQ or high PP.
      i checked on the ace because it is a scare card and betting on it has alot of FE. decided that letting him bet off the ace would be a better option, or betting the later street myself can extract more value.

      i would also like to dimiss both hands as cooler but they happened within such a short span of time, any guy would have tilted! the result of my tilt is me posting here in hope of improving my play and of cos brag about how cool stars software is :D
    • TetraQuark
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      I was thinking and I the main problem with the first hand is that there isn`t a villain that would pass value on that turn with AT+. And even if he has JJ-QQ I don`t think he is going nuts on river with some crazy bluffbet. Therefor we are only left with nuts hand as AA KK and maaaaybeee just maybe AK but that would be very thin from his side.
    • Targetme
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      id just reraise the flop he clearly had an overpair unless hes a lag
    • supeyrio
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      @targetme: i see that most regs fold overpairs to bet 3bet in FR. and do we really need to protect from 2outs? i think my play can get me at least two streets of value.

      @Greg: i think villian can shove any Ax two pairs here, especially AK for value. there are and i don't think we can fold to his raise right? against an KK+ AK, 22, 77 range, i have 57% equity to make that call.
    • TetraQuark
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      Yeah I can see your point again. Still, many players are prone of slowplaying their sets(22 77) on a dry board and again if he 3b you on flop isn`t it strange he wouldn`t shoot for value/protection again after that A(and FD) hits turn(with AK).

      I ain`t saying play is wrong, I am still saying avoiding putting in stacks here is almost impossible. But this is evaluation forum and we do try to make a perfect explenation for next time this situation occures. Hope my 2cents help ;)
    • supeyrio
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      @greg: sure thanks :f_biggrin:
    • Kaitz20
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      I would likely 3-bet flop although b/c is also fine
      Just i think he is very often raising there with overpair and I doubt he is getting away his hand if you make it 17-184