[NL20-NL50] nl50 QQ vs SQueeze 140bb deep

    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($53.30)
      BB ($86.55)
      Hero ($69.15)
      UTG+1 ($50)
      CO ($111)
      BTN ($52.95)

      Dealt to Hero Q:diamond: Q:spade:

      Hero raises to $1.75, fold, CO calls $1.75, fold, fold, BB raises to $8.50, Hero raises to $20, fold, BB raises to $86.55 (AI), Hero calls $49.15 (AI)

      FLOP ($140) K:club: T:heart: 3:heart:

      TURN ($140) K:club: T:heart: 3:heart: 2:heart:

      RIVER ($140) K:club: T:heart: 3:heart: 2:heart: 8:diamond:

      CO caller is 41/16 after 73 hands; squeezer is regular: 19/15/3 after 700 hands, squeeze 13% (12 samples only), 3b 5% (12% from bb after 81 samples).
      at the time me and my sweat partner thought that we had to 4b here and could not really fold to the shove notwithstanding how deep we are.
      However afterwards, neither of us liked it much. I think we are too deep to get QQ in pre versus a pretty tight reg. Given which we are effectively 4b bluffing here which makes no sense. Best just to call the squeeze pre & play carefully post-flop?

      Thanks
  • 2 replies
    • letmewinplz8
      letmewinplz8
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.05.2010 Posts: 439
      Im Nl25 noob but Vs regular if you take this line can you not 4b to a smaller size to try to induce spaz? Make it look like you are not sure whether to fold or shove, so he perhaps thinks he has some FE vs you on a shove.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I would prefer call pf
      You can 4-bet and play for stacks, but unless you have image who can 4-bet there very often that spot players aren´t really going to shove JJ/TT against you. So better take passive line and play postflop ip.