[NL2-NL10] would you go allin this situation ?

    • lettersarecool
      Joined: 17.08.2010 Posts: 4
      OnGame - $0.10 NL (5 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      SB: $9.88
      BB: $14.39
      UTG: $25.06
      Hero (CO): $9.70
      BTN: $13.65

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has J:club: Q:club:

      fold, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, fold, BB calls $0.30

      Flop: ($1.25, 3 players) 8:spade: Q:spade: Q:diamond:
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, fold, BB raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $2.70, BB raises to $13.99 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.60 and is all-in

      Flop: ($19.85, 2 players) 8:spade: Q:spade: Q:diamond:

      Turn: ($19.85, 2 players) J:spade:

      River: ($19.85, 2 players) 7:club:

      BB shows Q:heart: A:club: (Three of a Kind, Queens)
      Hero shows J:club: Q:club: (Full House, Queens full of Jacks)
      Hero wins $18.86
  • 3 replies
    • yeahyoung0312
      Joined: 16.12.2009 Posts: 340
      If you think villain can flat AQ OOP then it's close. If you think only KQ beats you at that moment then yes it's okay to go broke there.

      That check/raise/AI is tricky. Villain could be doing that with a FD or Qx. Only KQ/AQ and 88 beats you at that moment and that's certainly a very narrow and specific range. And 88 with a made FH probably won't go AI there. So calling is fine IMO.
    • fryandspicy
      Joined: 27.05.2010 Posts: 440
      This is the yetti theorem, right? You'd never bet so aggressively with such a strong hand; neither would he. But both of you did (flush draw fears?), so neither of you can put the other guy on such a strong hand. So you have to go all in. nh.
    • MaestroOfZerg
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510

      Yeti theorem usually applies to dry boards where you have virtually no incentive to protect because the best draw your opponent could have is some overcards or a gutshot. It kinda goes out the window when people can be semi-bluffing with a flushdraw.

      More importantly, it was thought-through for two good, thinking players who can read each other's range and actually make the determination that 3bet with a made hand is less profitably than flatcalling. You'll see way too much unoptimal play at microstakes from people that either can't realize those things or just don't care because they're having fun / they're bad / they're 12-tabling and only want to get it in with the nuts.

      In general I think it's likely villain has 88/KQ/AQ rather than a flushdraw/QT the tighter he is, so I'll usually take the odds and call in position on the off-chance he's drawing, fully expecting most of them not to bet strong again on a blank turn with a flushdraw, and expecting Qx to shutdown on flushing cards.

      Hope it helps.